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  1. #161
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    Boa-Noah's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colt47 View Post
    They shouldn't be leaving an exclusive armor in a benchmark when it isn't even updated graphically.
    It shouldn't get updated anyways, outdated gear no one can even get anymore? That better be LAST on the table for getting updated when AF gear hasn't even gotten the polish yet.
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  2. #162
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colt47 View Post
    Going to be serious, though. The real problem is that they keep allowing hellhound armor in the benchmark. They shouldn't be leaving an exclusive armor in a benchmark when it isn't even updated graphically. I believe it is still pre-update level in detail. No one would say a word if they didn't have it around, and having it show up in the benchmark just makes people ask "where do I get this armor from?" Then you end up with threads like this.
    You're right, I have no idea why they continue to use Hellhound for promotional material, they've been doing this for years with that set. Ideally they would just use a different set for promotional material that other people can actually obtain.
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  3. #163
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    Quote Originally Posted by Araxes View Post
    I wonder how many Times Yoshi P will have to say NO until they get the drift.
    I never understood how ff14 and wow spend such an exhorborent amount of resources on unique pvp items for something not even 1% of players participate in (feast/arena)
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  4. #164
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reimmi View Post
    I never understood how ff14 and wow spend such an exhorborent amount of resources on unique pvp items for something not even 1% of players participate in (feast/arena)
    Same reason, if they let other people get it the PVPers would feel less special, can't have that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reimmi View Post
    I never understood how ff14 and wow spend such an exhorborent amount of resources on unique pvp items for something not even 1% of players participate in (feast/arena)
    Yoshi P has openly voiced his enthusiasm for turning FFXIV into an Esport, a vision that carries both promise and challenges. However, this strategic shift hasn't resonated as expected with the majority of players. Despite ongoing efforts to promote PvP, it appears that the development team may be struggling to fully grasp the preferences of their broader audience, resulting in a disconnect between their initiatives and player interests.

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    My hypothesis regarding including the Hellhound in the Benchmark is primarily as a form of PvP promotion. It intrigues players, particularly those returning to the game, prompting them to inquire about its acquisition. Once informed that it originates from PvP, the intention is to pique their interest and encourage them to explore this aspect of the game. Although the armor itself may be unattainable, the Hellhound effectively acts as a visual emblem, symbolizing PvP's representation within the game.
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    Last edited by Bonoki; 04-28-2024 at 11:09 AM.
    99.99% chance probably a Titanman alt

  6. #166
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonoki View Post
    Although the armor itself may be unattainable, the Hellhound effectively acts as a visual emblem, symbolizing PvP's representation within the game.
    But... it doesn't? I mean anyone that sees the Hellhound in the Dawntrail benchmark is WAY behind that, it's a little sad that something 'symbolizing PVP's representation' was only available 6 years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Araxes View Post
    I wonder how many Times Yoshi P will have to say NO until they get the drift.
    What? Yoshida has said a few times he plans to let players get the old Feast armor, most likely in 7.X.
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  8. #168
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raim View Post
    What? Yoshida has said a few times he plans to let players get the old Feast armor, most likely in 7.X.
    I'm not opposed to it, but where/when did he say that? When he was asked during interviews he was fairly opposed to the idea.

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/406419

    What was said for sure is that Battlepass stuff would eventually return though - which are long overdue at this point...
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  9. #169
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boa-Noah View Post
    Yeah, I'm directly pulling from FFXIV Collect specifically because there's basically nothing that tracks the total cumulative I can find.

    According to a random tracker website there's about 17,000,000 active players in the last 30 days
    They only track "active public" accounts as far as I know of. That means they only include people who set their achievements to "public". But even if it is not the case and they track all (because mount data is public already), you know that was 8 years ago? People move on and get a life? It is still a fairly high number... And you missunderstood the part about dc's I think, at the beginnig there were fewer datacenters, so less rewards, later there were more, so obviously there will be more people active with those mounts.

    And what active means idk, I guess they snapshot some achievement dates or minions/mounts from mainstory like lucky banchoo did it. And according to their survey there are a million characters who had minion/mount changes within the last 4 months, across all datacenters, that number is closer to the truth. Your 18m number might refer to chars created, and bots alone make probably hundreds a day. So 200 people of 1million, well that's 0,02%.


    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    If you think everyone sees an achievement that way, that's your own insecurities. People wanting gear that's no longer obtainable is different than wanting a title that they can simply go get and are only hindered by themselves and no one else. Talk about "comparing apples to dinosaurs", genius.


    Listen to yourself.
    Not everyone, but many. You were the guy who wanted to hear opinions from people who don't do the content, of which you did a lot of. I projected the PvP discussion onto PotD and now you are telling me that I have to keep it separated after all, because it is different?

    My opinion is, that PvP is like sport, you don't go to Michael Phelps and tell him "yo bro your gold medal from the olympics is so old now, they should just give us a copy of yours, because I can swim too, even if I am much slower". Why would anyone ever play ranked PvP and compete seriously, if everything is free for everyone...

    And yes the other thing was a translation error from a live letter in the ff14 discord, but people like to hear what they want to hear and are total douchebags about it towards PvP players. Did they ban "ResidentSleeper" emotespam yet during every PvP live stream or PvP Patch Live letter ? This community dislikes PvP. xD
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  10. #170
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boa-Noah View Post
    Same reason, if they let other people get it the PVPers would feel less special, can't have that.
    Yeah but the weird part is they never give reskins, usually unique models for stuff.
    seems like a mismanagement of resources, mmo pvp is super giga niche so it's weird they put unique models and stuff in content not even 1% of players do
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