Yo-Kai Event: BLU Major Griefing Problem

[VerdeLuck]

Ya'll, we have access to 5 data centers at the moment and what...20+ servers? Can you not just...server/DC travel and go where there isn't a BLU pack going wild?

They should definitely not do that, Like I said earlier, Dynamis is particularly bad right now because BLU players are moving to Dynamis servers and doing their oneshot combo thinking they're the only ones in the instance, or I guess not caring if there are other players in there. When asked to stop usually they say nothing or think it's funny.
Moving DCs is not really an option when you're already on the least populated DC there is in NA. Seriously, there's so many Traveler tagged BLUs roaming around on Dynamis it's not even funny.

[LianaThorne]

Ya'll, we have access to 5 data centers at the moment and what...20+ servers? Can you not just...server/DC travel and go where there isn't a BLU pack going wild?

They should definitely not do that, Like I said earlier, Dynamis is particularly bad right now because BLU players are moving to Dynamis servers and doing their oneshot combo thinking they're the only ones in the instance, or I guess not caring if there are other players in there. When asked to stop usually they say nothing or think it's funny.
Moving DCs is not really an option when you're already on the least populated DC there is in NA. Seriously, there's so many Traveler tagged BLUs roaming around on Dynamis it's not even funny.

Materia is an option. I get 0 issues with ping on the East Coast outside of slight lag with gathering. Last I checked it's still a ghost town most hours of the day.

That still leaves 2 other data centers as well if Dynamis isn't an option anymore. I also highly doubt all of the servers available will have a BLU pack going at the same time or that would be some insane odds.

Do what you gotta do to make it work cause Square isn't gonna fix it or lock BLU out of FATEs because everything is ultimately working as intended and people have been navigating it for years now.
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No idea why it copied my original comment, mobile things.

[Aidorouge]

Ya'll, we have access to 5 data centers at the moment and what...20+ servers? Can you not just...server/DC travel and go where there isn't a BLU pack going wild?

Trust me, they were all over Maduin less than an hour after the event started, it was the most activity I've seen on a weekday after midnight since people found out they could cheese easier wins for the Fall Guys event by traveling here too. Even days later some of them are still out there farming certain zones during peak hours, where a few of them don't even have a Yokai Watch on or minion out, giving the appearance that they're just nuking FATEs to mess with other people/making sure only their party gets any credit. (IE: There's Blue Mages out there who are already done with the event themselves, either before or just now, but they're still here helping their friends/FC mates from their home server by traveling here.)

It sucks enough I have to Data Center travel just to do Roulettes everyday because we're low population, only to then become pushed out of open world content on my home server because... well, we're low population, there's rarely anyone else around in these zones most of the time that cares if someone who is actually from Maduin has to wait until they all log out for the day, and that's assuming the Blue Mages even move on because, again, some of them are playing "nuke taxi" for other travelers from *their* servers with no regard to how it affects the "locals" and all the while I have people on the forums and social media telling me that *I'm* the problem and not them.

Again, at this point I really *really* just want Square to merge us into the other Data Centers because there's no upsides/all downsides for being low population like we are. And no, the whole "well you won't have to wait for queue times when Dawntrail hits at least" is ridiculous because everyone here knows darn well where all of the surplus from Aether/Primal/Crystal is coming first. This event is hands down the first time I've ever felt regret for joining Dynamis, and yet the general consensus seems to be "screw you, got mine, git gud".

Heck, most of why I finally signed up for the forums was to find out if maybe I *was* doing something wrong and there would be a solution here because the situation was getting *that* frustrating and there was no recourse to be found in-game, and I wasn't sure if anything any of these Blue Mages were doing actually counted as griefing since they seemed like skill effects they would normally have (and I wasn't about to get myself in trouble for making "bad" reports). I can't even get all of the weapons anyway because I'm only partially through Heavensward, but now even for the ones I *can* access I have to struggle extra hard for because Dynamis' "server identity" is a backwater hole full of runts that nobody cares about until we can be exploited somehow. Just... ugh, even this rant feels pointless...

[ChrysOCE]

Materia is an option. I get 0 issues with ping on the East Coast outside of slight lag with gathering. Last I checked it's still a ghost town most hours of the day.

Hey! We aren't a ghost town. Materia is intimate and cozy, where everyone knows someone that knows someone. We are just sleeping or working, during NA hours.

[Ardeth]

Griefing aside the anti-social tendencies the players are exhibiting is making this event just feel even worse. No party finder groups. If you make one, nobody joins. If you ask for an invite, you don't get one. You can't get credit. Rinse and repeat. You know it's going to get easier with time, but the apathy it is filling you with is making character deletion sounds like a glorious release.

That's the last I'm gonna say about it.

[GTK0HLK]

Griefing aside the anti-social tendencies the players are exhibiting is making this event just feel even worse. No party finder groups. If you make one, nobody joins. If you ask for an invite, you don't get one. You can't get credit. Rinse and repeat. You know it's going to get easier with time, but the apathy it is filling you with is making character deletion sounds like a glorious release.

That's the last I'm gonna say about it.

Hope you find relief in which ever gameplay loop you desire.

As a Eureka Enjoyer, I can just see hoe Closed off it is.

And Sadly, since it is a Low Level to Mid Level Content.

Alot of New players or players who've yet to try or do not know of the systems cannot take advantage of it.

We can only hope to teach.

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Ontopic as a Whole

So far it's gonna get worse. It gets worse right at the middle when less Players are around.

BLU mages for Good and Ill will careless on pumping the brakes on skill usage to only Dragon/Lightning Ring and Hydro Pull.

So you'll see more Crazy spells and Quick Progress.

But those who delayed one week or a month will feel the brunt of it.

Once things Build Up steam one month away from Dawntrail with Returning players will BluLess Player counts go up, and so will their restraints.

[Funny how in other places I said this, people lacked to the reading comprehension to understand it. But I do not truly care for their take from misunderstanding. as I know full well that BLUs in Yokai Collab are neither good or bad. But Case By Case. and I'm not wrong.]

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If need clarify further.

Less players who don't have a High skill blue the longer the days go by. The More they Reign without Care of others. Good Cause less players to take a hit. Bad cause those who decided to wait a week or more will suffer cause of their choice to delay. 1 Month <-> Dawntrail Expac Day will fill with players, and become easier to avoid Insta BLUing due to the higher PF rates of last minute Grinders.

All in All, Hope all are Entertained in which ever way they decide in these months til the Trail of Dawn.

[Valence]

Like stated in the title there is a problem with the Yo-Kai event where there is a problem with BLU griefing a major portion of the FATEs.

Unlike the rest of the classes, BLU is not effected by the level sync mechanic and have access to their entire spell list. Most of the ARR and SB areas can be one shot by a simple combo by BLU. This is causing FATEs that people can't even get contribution because the FATE is over in a matter of seconds. Tagging enemies is extremely hard as well, so camping the spawns for the enemies also doesn't work.

Now I have personally run into several respectful BLU who are simply pulling the enemies into a tight circle for everyone to fight, but it is way more common to run into groups of 6+ BLU who are just nuking FATEs where no one gets contribution unless you are in their party.

I understand this event is meant to get people out there doing more FATEs and they should be going fast, but not THAT fast. BLU is making these FATEs almost near impossible to participate in. I've also witnessed some insensitive conversations when people have politely asked if the BLU would stop 1 shotting boss/mobs. Some suggestions are just straight up ignorant of the issue at hand.
- A user should NOT have to world/DC travel just to be able to farm out FATEs. Travel also did not exist for the past Yo-Kai events.
- Telling people to just play BLU as well is... Infuriating.
- Telling people to just team up with a BLU is also not a solution.
- Telling people to just wait until the BLU get bored is ALSO not a solution.
Also running into a lot of insults and name calling from both sides has plagued /shout in many areas I've run into. Really not proving we're as cozy a community as we like to parade around.

BLU did not exist at the past Yo-Kai events and I believe this was a massive oversight in this release. The only reasonable and simple solution I can see is restricting that BLU cannot equip the watch.

It's even moreso a problem for new players than for veterans. I see them complain about it all the time and they're right to do so. They don't have the level or access to higher levels of BLU builds and spells to align themselves on other players. Even when they have unlocked mount flight, they still arrive on site after the fates are done.

The other problem is that fundamentally people using BLU are only doing it out of laziness and not effectiveness, because it still takes time for FATEs to respawn anyway so everybody sits twiddling their thumbs for minutes between spawns no matter the job used.

[WinglessSeraphim]

The other problem is that fundamentally people using BLU are only doing it out of laziness and not effectiveness, because it still takes time for FATEs to respawn anyway so everybody sits twiddling their thumbs for minutes between spawns no matter the job used.

Fates and open world combat are the only places a BLU can play outside of boring logs and carnivale. It's fun to play. Not all BLU's are giant jerks trying to suck up all the fun for everyone. I did the event as BLU because it's the only time I'll play it, for fates (events and to get my all elezen squadron). I would hydropull and stand there and still people would complain.

[Sayo_]

So blu isn't the problem, the particular players are. And denial of resources to other players is harassment/griefing and reportable under the ToS. Just start reporting the people who refuse to play nice. They are not allowed to do that., they agreed not to when they signed up and agreed to the ToS. You can attempt to talk it out with them, explain your side, and they can agree and be decent people. Or they can get banhammered.

Seriously. Reporting is not harassing someone. You only have to report because they are harassing you. If they didn't want to follow the rules, they could have chosen not to agree to them. They can uninstall at any time. They signed a contract, they refuse to uphold their end at their peril.

You're going to report someone for beating a FATE before you can get to it?

[george357]

was out today and saw the trains of rude players in game this is nothing new and has nothing to do with blues jobs it has to do with bad self centered players who put their needs above other players.