Astrologian: what is your understanding about it?

[Moqi]

But consider! Pressing button to draw card feels satisfying. It'd be like, idk, gunbreaker without continuation. Dragoon without high jump. Scholar without aetherflow (so, Sage, which is part of why I don't like it). If they got rid of it, yeah, it does TECHNICALLY buff the class and reduce bloat, but I can't help but feel like it would really lose something. Some of that feedback.

But High Jump and Continuation do stuff. And yeah I feel the same way about Scholar. I don't find it satisfying at all, but cards are even worse because it's Play and Draw are two different buttons so you have meaningless button pressing and bloat (as if anyone would rather draw again than press a suboptimal card).

[Supersnow845]

But High Jump and Continuation do stuff. And yeah I feel the same way about Scholar. I don't find it satisfying at all, but cards are even worse because it's Play and Draw are two different buttons so you have meaningless button pressing and bloat (as if anyone would rather draw again than press a suboptimal card).

I’m pretty sure they are saying SGE was the unsatisfying one not SCH

[Kissune]

But High Jump and Continuation do stuff. And yeah I feel the same way about Scholar. I don't find it satisfying at all, but cards are even worse because it's Play and Draw are two different buttons so you have meaningless button pressing and bloat (as if anyone would rather draw again than press a suboptimal card).

High jump is a bit of damage that gives you mirage dive. Continuation is a bit of extra damage on top of gnashing fang/burst strike. Why couldn't they just make it so, say, high jump gave the stack of dragon gauge and just had higher potency. Or make it so gnashing fang just had higher raw potency and you didn't have to press an extra button to do it? They do about as much as play does. Play draws you a card. Having it not just be instant and automatic means that the class is more reactive rather than just... have your timeline set up for you, and press play at key moments. You have to actually work with your cards, instead of them just... being there, I guess.

I find drawing and playing cards very fun bc I like pressing a lot of buttons, and it really makes me feel like I'm actually pulling from a tarot deck. The draw animation is gorgeous, and the satisfaction of pulling the card, reading it, and then quickly playing it in the same weave window is something no other class will give me. Like idk, if you don't like a lot of weaves maybe... AST isn't the class for you? I genuinely feel like people would be a lot better off if they could just look at a class and think 'hm, maybe it's not for me' instead of trying to get what makes it interesting and unique to play stripped away all the time.

If AST loses the ability to draw, then play will just feel... weird. It's not bloat, it's literally how the class works. It's always been the high APM healer, and that is a niche that does need to exist bc every other role has that, except maybe caster. The more people advocate for stripping away the busyness the class the less I think people understand why the people who DO enjoy astrologian like it so much, just why they in particular don't like it.