Yoshi-P: "If you want more engaging content, go play Ultimate"

[kuroashi_sanji]

I took a long break after 6.1 and came back recently for old times' sake. I was doing some HW dungeons, and I noticed that the boss fights are much easier now, and the question is why?
I mean, making the jobs braindead wasn't enough for yoshida? Did he really need to make the old dungeons easier? I still remember how much I loved the Hraesvelgr fight on day one of Sohr Khai. He simply destroyed the whole fight, why?

Maybe I'm being too dramatic, but I think that players who are into XIV for the gameplay (like myself), have no reason to keep playing anymore, I mean, the job design is shit, the old content is shit now, the endgame isn't fun, except for p2s.
IMO squareenix should pay more attention to the gameplay instead of improving the graphics, but I guess graphics sell more these days.

[vetch]

I took a long break after 6.1 and came back recently for old times' sake. I was doing some HW dungeons, and I noticed that the boss fights are much easier now, and the question is why?
I mean, making the jobs braindead wasn't enough for yoshida? Did he really need to make the old dungeons easier? I still remember how much I loved the Hraesvelgr fight on day one of Sohr Khai. He simply destroyed the whole fight, why?

Maybe I'm being too dramatic, but I think that players who are into XIV for the gameplay (like myself), have no reason to keep playing anymore, I mean, the job design is shit, the old content is shit now, the endgame isn't fun, except for p2s.
IMO squareenix should pay more attention to the gameplay instead of improving the graphics, but I guess graphics sell more these days.

It varies.

In cases like Hraesvelgr, the nerfs are because they enabled Trusts for the dungeon and the bad Trust AI couldn't perform the old content.

In other cases (Toto-Rak's final boss, Dzemael Darkhold, World of Darkness) nerfs happened simply because they have a low opinion of the playerbase.

[4clubbedace]

To be fair, a fighting game being simplified isn't as bad as simplifying an MMO.

In a fighting game, you do still have the unpredictability of your opponents that comes with being a PvP game. As long as they don't remove the skill ceiling with niche stuff you can do to counter, it's totally fine to make the game more accessible.

However, in an MMO, you fight a script, it never deviates, it's never unpredictable, it's always the same. In that scenario, if you make the way you play also always the same, you turn hard content into nothing but memorisation. The only challenge is how much information your brain can retain (which is also why 3rd party assist tools are on the rise, it alleviates cognitive load by having a machine tell you what to do).

Honestly speaking, if the fights were entirely random and unpredictable, the current kits might not be as bad, but given that everything is on a script, sanding down job gameplay is unacceptable.

KOF still comes out semi frequent but its so notrious for pretzle imputs its no where near as popular compared to sf and takken.

[ty_taurus]

KOF still comes out semi frequent but its so notrious for pretzle imputs its no where near as popular compared to sf and takken.

Which is such a shame really because I love KOF character designs a lot, but when the game asks me to do commands like this:



It's just annoying. Quarter turn inputs are finicky enough and so easy to screw up, let alone that nonsense.

[ty_taurus]

Honestly it would be really cool if this was the first expansion to not add another obligatory basic attack upgrade. I see complaints about healers greeding DPS too much, but constantly adding another 10-20 potency to the attack you spam across the entire fight only encourages that behavior as every cast of your attack spell holds more and more weight per GCD.

[Maltothoris]

If that is the case, they are certainly gonna try to either then rebalance the attack potency or add in damage elsewhere. Where though would be an interesting question.

[ty_taurus]

If that is the case, they are certainly gonna try to either then rebalance the attack potency or add in damage elsewhere. Where though would be an interesting question.

Ideally, healers should have a few more attacks to spread that potency out into. But even going off of this anti-DPS action design they've been adamant about for the last couple of expansions, it would make a lot more sense to upgrade the DOT every expansion instead of the basic attack, and make that carry the bulk of the healer's DPS weight. That would actually take a lot of pressure off the healer to maintain very high DPS uptime. But then again, that would require the design team understand how healing actually works, and that really doesn't seem to be the case here.

[Aravell]

If that is the case, they are certainly gonna try to either then rebalance the attack potency or add in damage elsewhere. Where though would be an interesting question.

You're assuming they care enough about healers to think about these things.

But if they did think about ways to maintain the general party dps output without upgrading the healer filler spam spell, they'd more than likely just buff tank damage output instead. That would be their solution to maintaining the general party dps output without upgrading our filler spam spell, because the dev team's current goal is to make sure inept healers have the least negative impact to the party possible.

[rawker]

Why cant they design healers to have low entry points for the casual healers and have high ceiling to incentivize skilled players?

[ty_taurus]

You're assuming they care enough about healers to think about these things.

But if they did think about ways to maintain the general party dps output without upgrading the healer filler spam spell, they'd more than likely just buff tank damage output instead. That would be their solution to maintaining the general party dps output without upgrading our filler spam spell, because the dev team's current goal is to make sure inept healers have the least negative impact to the party possible.

It's also about solo DPS though too. If healers weren't getting stronger, then it would be taking them longer and longer to clear even ordinary overworld enemies since max HP has to also increase based on the increased outgoing potency from DPS and tank jobs, not just based on raw stat growth. The designers seem to understand this concern at least.