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  1. #61
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    Reinhardt_Azureheim's Avatar
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    Reinhardt Azureheim
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    Alpha
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Boa-Noah View Post
    Yes, but introducing a brand new system on top of the current PVP system that prioritizes ranked isn't going to do that, give ranked more points per round in the current system and people will probably dabble and maybe enjoy it, forcing them into it as the only way to get glam from years ago is not (in my opinion) the solution to the problem facing ranked.
    You speak of forcing when the suggestions have been FOMO-free new currency (or hell, rework the commendation crystals into the currency tab at different values) you can do at any time and simply get more if you score high in a season, any rank can get them.

    Yet you want what was previously high-performance ranked trophies to be handed down to you on a silver plate like peanuts and never want to engage with one of the systems that needs that incentive the most. I mean feel free to, but I seriously do not get your "forced" argument. That's like saying "I am *forced* to do this raid to get mount xy even though I despise it". But I don't get to have second opinions if I am allowed to obtain Ozma, Cerberus or other raid mounts by other methods. But when it is about a ranked currency, that's too much?
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  2. #62
    Player Karious's Avatar
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    Rukoko Ruko
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I'm mostly annoyed that they decided to give mounts to only 100 players, and even more so that they were things that people really wanted as mounts, like in the case of the Magitek Conveyor back in Stormblood. I remember people blowing up about how it was stupid to lock it to the top 100. Which I agree. I was more angry about the Dreadnought being a top 100 reward; because that's no I actually tried getting; but got nowhere because of no rank decay and everyone already secured their spots from win trading and it was impossible to work my way up. So, yippie, a mount I wanted since I saw it almost a decade ago was never going to be mine and everyone would shout in my ear about how it was a skill issue when it was in fact not a skill issue.
    Mounts should not be locked to only 100 players per server, period. If I have to grind my ass off and win like 2000 feast games or something, at least I CAN eventually get it. I don't care if its difficult, I just want an opportunity, something I didn't get before thanks to snarky players and their cheating.
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  3. #63
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    PotatoTree's Avatar
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    Momoko Tomoko
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    Miner Lv 100
    I worked for those top 100 rewards, if they bring them back I'll lose all motivation to ever play this game again lol.

    Just make new rewards. And not some lame recolors either. Just make a new cooler mount, but leave the ones in the past alone. When I see someone with a feast mount reward, I know they been through the same struggle as me, and not someone who bought it with 10 wolf collars.

    And on that note there really should be MORE rewards in this game that are locked or made out of reach to players. Stuff like rewards for the first 10 clears of a raid tier or something. Cause right now when everyone can get every reward all the rewards are meaningless. There needs to be rewards where when people see it they send you tells about what that is and such, because it's so rare and unobtainable.

    For everyone else they can just "Mare" it or something if they want it, whatever that means.
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  4. #64
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    Runic Raven
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I mean, you should do PvP because you like PvP, not because you get something from it.



    Imagine if they made Raid drops go away after the tier ended. or after the first 100 clears. People would go nuts. Why did PvP get that?



    Also, its funny that theres only like, 2 die hard PvPers who come on here and say no.

    Point 1: Most Top 100 Players do PvP because they like it AND the Rewards. Even tho current Rewards are not really worth calling them that.

    Point 2: PvP is a entirely different environment than a Raid. You fight against unpredictable people, not a fixed script.

    Point 3: Not many of the old Veteran Top 100 Players are left. Many stopped playing the Game when PvP got castrated to be more easy. You could say we are a minority now. Also most of them would be in the PvP Forum. We all know this thread got opened in the Wrong Forum section cause only few Read PvP Forums anymore.



    Now to something different: I wanted the Hellhound Mount too, made it to Platinum but could not continue because i was buisy nearly dying in the Hospital. Do you see me complaining and demanding them back? No!
    I can respect Yoshi P's choice and am able to live with it. We really just need more new rewards.
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    Last edited by Araxes; 04-23-2024 at 06:51 PM.
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  5. #65
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    Reading through the thread, I feel like there are plenty of legit players that would be unfairly penalized here just because some people (who I guess never reached beyond Gold in ranked, so I'm not even sure why their opinions matter on ranked PvP rewards) thought there were some cheaters.

    Also in terms of the White Ravens, as a legacy player that worked for that I was extremely offended YoshiP just willy nilly added that as free loot without even just renaming/recoloring the item. I mean they do that for cash shop junk, they couldn't do it for this item that some of the most dedicated fans of the 1.0 game worked for?

    The only thing I'm ok with is that he apologized for it. I hope that with that mistake he recognizes that bringing back the old rewards would be a huge slap in the face to anyone who worked for them.

    What I think the actual solution is for the game to add way more unobtainable things that only a few players can ever get. Once this reaches a critical mass of things people can't get, people will stop complaining about the absolute crumbs that PvP was offered.
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  6. #66
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    Blackiron Tarkus
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Pvp in this game has always been "cheap" to say the least. If you weren't fighting other players you were definitely fighting the game systems itself. Things like server ping, ghost hitboxes, a lack or rank decay in ranked, etc. only rewarded people who abused the intended systems, be it in-game or through "other means". Imo pvp is too trashy and casual to have fomo content. There's far too many gimmicks and environmental hazards in the newest iteration of pvp that I can hardly call it a "pvp" mode. It's just another form of content and as such it's rewards should be accessible. I can only imagine the xbox players looking at the hellhound gear thinking "I want that cool armor" only to find out it cannot be obtained because of very small minority of an already very small minority of players will get butthurt if other players get it too.
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  7. #67
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    Phoebe Iris
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    This discourse appears crafted to pressure players dissatisfied with the current PvP system into partaking solely for the lure of rewards, aimed at improving queue times for a set group of elite PvP enthusiasts. However, these individuals then use their rewards to disparage those who made earnest attempts but fell short due to skill gaps. Rather than nurturing healthy competition, it fosters toxicity.

    Quote Originally Posted by PotatoTree View Post
    And on that note there really should be MORE rewards in this game that are locked or made out of reach to players. Stuff like rewards for the first 10 clears of a raid tier or something. Cause right now when everyone can get every reward all the rewards are meaningless. There needs to be rewards where when people see it they send you tells about what that is and such, because it's so rare and unobtainable.

    For everyone else they can just "Mare" it or something if they want it, whatever that means.
    This idea is fundamentally flawed on multiple levels. To begin with, there are currently no exclusive rewards available, and instances of alleged cheating have tarnished the integrity of past world races. Moreover, it primarily benefits a subset of highly skilled players who can afford to prioritize gaming over real-life responsibilities. It's often the same select groups dominating the world races, resulting in rewards being disproportionately distributed among them. Many of these players already enjoy significant publicity as influencers, further exacerbating the issue. To the extent that they frequently face accusations of receiving information directly from Square Enix.
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    Last edited by Bonoki; 04-23-2024 at 11:57 PM.
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  8. #68
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    Nah definitely shouldn't be for trophy crystals if they ever do bring it back in some way shape or form it should be ranked base. And does anyone really care about a legacy tattoo? Does anyone notice anyone with it?
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  9. #69
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    Zoh Chah
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by PotatoTree View Post
    What I think the actual solution is for the game to add way more unobtainable things that only a few players can ever get. Once this reaches a critical mass of things people can't get, people will stop complaining about the absolute crumbs that PvP was offered.
    Limited availability isn't going to increase that. I would personally like more of the series malmstone rewards to be purchasable with trophy crystals. As while I got mine from going through the leveling process of each season, the important part should be that a new player should be able work towards that same thing even if its years later. A new player has a better shot of earning the rewards from clearing an ultimate than they are earning the rewards from ranked pvp that is only available for a limited.
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    Enju Abbagliato
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 100
    The only thing limited availability does is make people go 'Well I guess I won't even bother'.
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