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  1. #161
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    It’s not an exaggeration to say in cleave content bloodwhetting is 4 benedictions on a 25 second CD

    you physically cannot balance that amount of healing because if the enemies did enough damage to challenge that the other tanks would be shredded and the healers wouldn’t be able to keep up m

    It is physically impossible to balance bloodwhetting in its current form
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  2. #162
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    AmiableApkallu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    Ima be honest I dont think its possible to balance casual AOE content around Bloodwhetting, its so absurdly strong in AOE that you honestly end up just wasting 80% of its healing.
    I cant imagine how hard mobs would have to hit to contest it.

    Like I agree normal content could be made harder, but I do actually think that Bloodwhetting is the biggest barrier keeping that from ever happening.
    About the only thing you could do is to reduce W2W pulls down to one or two hard hitting mobs. Otherwise, in AoE, Bloodwhetting (in it's current state) simply out does every healer.
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  3. #163
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    Sid Zarkovitch
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    I hope they adjust the tanks. Right now it's a joke. PLD HW is laughing on his grave right now.
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  4. #164
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    I dont think they will change BW. If anything they will buff it in DT. Probably a new trait that doubles the shield potency and heals on the end of the duration. They cannot balance dungeons around just one tank. If anything I think dungeons are balanced around a minimum ilvl DRK which is why its so easy for WAR and the other tanks.

    Pretty much for the media tour, every tank will look at WAR to see what WAR gets. Because ultimately that is all that matters in terms of balance in CASUAL content for other tanks.
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  5. #165
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    I dont think they will change BW. If anything they will buff it in DT. Probably a new trait that doubles the shield potency and heals on the end of the duration. They cannot balance dungeons around just one tank. If anything I think dungeons are balanced around a minimum ilvl DRK which is why its so easy for WAR and the other tanks.

    Pretty much for the media tour, every tank will look at WAR to see what WAR gets. Because ultimately that is all that matters in terms of balance in CASUAL content for other tanks.
    They can balance dungeons around all tanks if 2 weren’t so disgustingly cracked on their own self sustain they put the others to shame

    Nerf PLD and WAR and suddenly they are balanced

    Saying “it’s balanced around DRK so there is no choice by for WAR to be cracked” is just stupid
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  6. #166
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    I dont think they will change BW. If anything they will buff it in DT. Probably a new trait that doubles the shield potency and heals on the end of the duration. They cannot balance dungeons around just one tank. If anything I think dungeons are balanced around a minimum ilvl DRK which is why its so easy for WAR and the other tanks.

    Pretty much for the media tour, every tank will look at WAR to see what WAR gets. Because ultimately that is all that matters in terms of balance in CASUAL content for other tanks.
    They can't keep designing it like that. It goes against their entire philosophy of "bring the player not the job" Except now it quite literally is if you are playing anything but Warrior you are playing the inferior tank. Warrior IS meta right now.

    And if they continue to keep treading in that direction, not only will usage of the other tanks start plummeting into the ground, as they now bring two warriors or maybe a warrior and GNB if GNB remains highest dps, but they expect the tank population to drop too. Not everyone wants to play one specific tank when there's four of them because they decided to make WAR the defacto choice for every single situation because it has all this power with 0 downsides.
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  7. #167
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    I dont think they will change BW. If anything they will buff it in DT. Probably a new trait that doubles the shield potency and heals on the end of the duration. They cannot balance dungeons around just one tank. If anything I think dungeons are balanced around a minimum ilvl DRK which is why its so easy for WAR and the other tanks.

    Pretty much for the media tour, every tank will look at WAR to see what WAR gets. Because ultimately that is all that matters in terms of balance in CASUAL content for other tanks.
    Funny how that works, though.
    Why can't savage be designed around Warrior doing 3% less dps?
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  8. #168
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    They can balance dungeons around all tanks if 2 weren’t so disgustingly cracked on their own self sustain they put the others to shame

    Nerf PLD and WAR and suddenly they are balanced

    Saying “it’s balanced around DRK so there is no choice by for WAR to be cracked” is just stupid
    dungeons can be cleared with 1 healer and 3 dps just fine honestly, the bar for that content is so low it really doesn't matter what you bring
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  9. #169
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoPug View Post
    dungeons can be cleared with 1 healer and 3 dps just fine honestly, the bar for that content is so low it really doesn't matter what you bring
    The problem is if you bring 1 healer 3 DPS your run will go slower and be messier than 1 tank 1 healer 2 DPS

    if you bring 1 tank 3 DPS your run will go FASTER than even bringing a healer

    No matter how easy it is you should never benefit from dropping a part of the trinity and this is an easily fixable balance issue
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  10. #170
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoPug View Post
    dungeons can be cleared with 1 healer and 3 dps just fine honestly, the bar for that content is so low it really doesn't matter what you bring
    I will not enjoy healing with that setup.. With WAR though, you're very sturdy, can direct all aggro to yourself so you will not worry with dps getting hit all around, and can over heal yourself and an ally every 25 seconds.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE


    - Seraphism is BAD.
    - Give us back Shadowflare and make Deployment/Emergency Tactics affect Biolysis
    - Give us back Rouse
    - Make pet management rewarding.

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