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    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
    A few things from me:

    - I hope the changes help ease some of people's concerns.
    - People truly underestimate how important lighting is for 3D graphics.
    - I'm glad they're not reverting anything
    - No matter what they do, someone's gonna be angry about
    - People need to stop treating WIPs as finalized products.
    - Can we keep this as the most literal reminder that they are listening to feedback?
    We do not have the final product. If the WiP is all we have to respond to, it is what we should respond to. As a freelancer, that is like not speaking up about a problem you notice in the sketch stage until the artist is finished with the work. If anything, we should have had the benchmark sooner to give them more time to adjust to changes and not two months to release.

    Also, personally, my problems haven't been addressed in that post at all, because the Viera face 3 changes still look awful and not like the old ones in the benchmark itself, which is evidence that they're not lighting-related problems, and nothing there looks like weird mouth scaling or rigging problems like FElezen or some FAu Ra.

    E: I'm being rate-limited, but this would actively be solved by adding the changes as new options and not wholesale replacements like they currently are! This is not a difficult ask!

    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
    You literally don't know that. You seriously think you can just pop a PS3 model with half the triangles and make it work seamlessly with a new rig tailor made for a new model?

    If we don't approach this topic accepting that what we need is compromise instead of our every whim accounted for and fixed to our specific taste, we're never gonna get anywhere, and people are gonna remain upset, no matter what they do.
    And now you're deliberately reading me in bad faith! The options I'm talking about would obviously be upgrades that actually loyally keep to the old features instead of making new ones that keep none of them and telling me to live with my character not existing anymore, but I supposed someone determined to dismiss sensible feedback in favor of building a house of cards wouldn't know that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ancalagon_Blacktalon View Post
    yeah like, if anyone says "it's not hard" or "it's not difficult" or "I'm not asking for too much" or any other awful dumb assumptions about something tech-related, at this point my reaction is to ignore them, because that kind of downplaying of the real effort it takes to do most things in tech is both endemic (and worse with Gamers) and also speaks to profound ignorance of the process.
    I'm literally in game dev. If you can make the changed version, you can make the version that more closely matches the old style and add it to the old Ui, especially if you aren't a two or three person team. We know they have space for more faces bc Hyur have several.
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    Last edited by Rudje; 04-20-2024 at 07:25 AM.