Character creator complaints boil down to customization replacements, no new options

[Rudje]

Unfortunately, there's nothing to change them to. There's no options to replicate the looks we had in Endwalker. The issue with elements that have changed are that they're changed with no possible alternatives - it's not like we were given more presets or options. If you don't like any of the 4 options, then you're out of luck - and that seems to be the case for many players right now.

This is basically the core problem people have; if it was just the eyes being too-dark/the general desaturation/lightening issue bc of the lighting changes or more options existing, people wouldn't be anywhere near as upset about how things have turned out. The current customization is so extremely limited that any change to the options actively eliminates choices players made for the specific way an option made a face look and that doesn't seem to have been considered at all in the update even in the changes that in a vacuum would look fine.

[Taranok]

This is basically the core problem people have; if it was just the eyes being too-dark/the general desaturation/lightening issue bc of the lighting changes or more options existing, people wouldn't be anywhere near as upset about how things have turned out. The current customization is so extremely limited that any change to the options actively eliminates choices players made for the specific way an option made a face look and that doesn't seem to have been considered at all in the update even in the changes that in a vacuum would look fine.

Using my own character as an example, I went from a hawkish, aggressive, angular face to, well. They widened the face by somewhere between a quarter and half inch. The cheeks are, straight up, wider now. The jaw is smoother, the face is overall more rounded. The lips went from smooth, cute, and relatively large or average sized to permanently pursed. I literally cannot un-goldfish them because there's permanent shadows in the corners of the mouth.

They took my face 4 au ra and turned it into face 1 au ra. If I wanted face 1, I'd use it. I want the hostile horns and the hawkish face. Worse than that, people always joked about how au ra were already dolls. Well, I guess now my character actually is a japanese doll, the facial features very heavily match them with the wider, rounded face and permanently pursed lips. It's a joke.

It's such a heavy departure from the face we have now that I cannot hope to salvage it. Even designs I've made for viera and miqo'te just don't look right, and it's not just because they have more polygons.

No answer, no recourse, nothing to change it to. It's just a completely different character now.

[Oshirigami]

There's still issues with this.

Personally, I think the new female Elezen noses look much better, but some people really dislike them. Lips are a bit different, too. They lost a lot of smugness.
Why aren't these new options, instead of replacing the old ones?

Female Au Ra have the weird philtrum.

4th female Miqo'te face is so different that it ought to be a 5th face.

[Rudje]

From what I've seen, for the most part actual model changes that weren't unintentional seem to have been mostly unaltered in Benchmark 1.1, which is disappointing. Still seeing the same lip problems as last time, just less viscerally offensive to the eye because the lighting isn't making everything look worse.

[Oshirigami]

Another thing is that 5th face female Midlander and 4th face female Miqo'te both no longer have any options to give them that overbite and a little bit of teeth showing.

[Loggos]

Yep, exactly this thread. I don't want to take any of the new options away from people who like the updated features better. I would just also like to keep mine. Adding a couple more presets to the already comically limited character creator should have been the solution.

[Merunari]

Adding my voice in agreement here. The character creator is extremely limited as is, so having more options would be fabulous. Pre-existing options shouldn't be taken away or replaced, they should be adding onto what limited options we have.

[Oshirigami]

Yep, I like some of the new options fine. It's the removal of some current options that many people like that's a problem.

This kind of reminds me of Summoner all over again. Only 3.5% of people mainly played the job, or something, out of 18 jobs at the time (100/18 = 5.55%). So Square Enix saw fit to ruin a job that many people liked to make it more accessible.
New Summoner should have been a new job instead of taking the old one away.

Because only maybe 3.5% of people use and like the overbite, is it just going to be removed because most people don't want an overbite?

[1313]

why the lack of eyebrows and beards etc STILL
THIS WAS THE PERFECT FLOCKING TIME TO ADD THE SHIT PEOPLE HAVE REQUESTED FOR A FLOCKING DECADE

[Luluna]

I always said they should have updated the CC years ago and not added the new races and added them later when the CC was fixed. I know that will not sit with a lot but I have played years since a closed Alpha build of the old 1.0 game and the CC has had hardly anything added since.

One face to midlander a boob and tail slider, other tiny bits like face paint and bits here and there. Nothing major. They were asked to add more for as far back as I can remember and nothing has ever been done.

They took away my favourite voice from my cat girl and I used a fantasia as she did not port well and her identity lost. I wish we could choose voices and would kill to have my old voice back.