Quote Originally Posted by Sqwall View Post
I agree it's cheese. And there are MORE then 1 example to use holmgang throughout all the savage tiers in endwalker.

I would also say I never used Holmgang unless it was deliberately planned. Most often for busters it was vengeance and thrill. Maybe an equal afterwards.

I guess what I'm trying to say is. Why even bring up the fact that Holm needs looked at...if it's used for cheese anyway? WAR has everything it needs to survive.

99% of the reason we use invulns IS to cheese. Except for P10s where that is 100% needed as it's a wild charge. That mech was a nightmare, but fun.

I guess I don't understand the need to change invulns since from a standpoint of fair...they are pretty much the same despite stylistically different.
Because the CD on WAR’s means that it can either cancel way more busters or cheese and then still cancel a later buster anyway

The CD on WAR’s invuln is too short and it warps the tank mechanics around it, it’s very mild weakness of needing a healer in some circumstances doesn’t change how overpowered it is in terms of it being able to warp savage around it. The nerf needs to be to its CD, not to anything about how it works