The End of Stalking, Blacklist & Lodestone

[Ardeth]

It just makes me wonder if venue advertisers will try and change their text in chat to avoid players mute filters. Like instead of "Club" getting muted, they can just say "C1ub", along with "V3nue" or "DeeJ" instead of "DJ". Maybe there could be a system where you make a muted word, and then you can add similar words within that word to avoid this? I don't think we're going to get rid of RMT sellers anytime soon even with mute filters, considering how much randomness they put in their messages already, it will be hard to find a specific keyword to mute them.

I hope evading text like that is bannable. I have nothing against RP, but the venue spam is so obnoxious. Ironically, since they kinda threw the gauntlet down on chat filtering, I haven't seen any venue spam. Maybe we got lucky, and it scared them all off if only for a minute.

[Tint]

Can i ask, what the hell is bad about lodestone, or why there is such a "stalker" problem in this game?

I mean i play now 3 years and never had a problem with stalkers... what is wrong with people!

The problem with the lodestone is that your character profile page has a fixed id - or url - which never changes. Even when you change the name or server of your character. This means a stalker who has your profile page bookmarked will always find you again. To escape them you have to start a brand new character.

And I am not sure if the changes to the lodestone page will actually fix that problem.

Plus it seems the problem with the friend list - that you stay on their friend list when you delete them from yours - will also not get fixed.

[EorzeaWanderer]

If they're on your blacklist they get ejected immediately any time they try to enter.

I don’t believe that’s how it works. The slide says, “When players with expulsion privileges are in the estate, anyone registered to their blacklist will be automatically expelled when attempting to enter the estate grounds.”

Which I interpreted to mean they can get in otherwise, assuming they are not under the 10-day ban that is applied upon expulsion.

[Daeriion_Aeradiir]

Can i ask, what the hell is bad about lodestone, or why there is such a "stalker" problem in this game?

I mean i play now 3 years and never had a problem with stalkers... what is wrong with people!

Believe it or not, MMOs do tend to attract people who may not necessarily have good social skills, creeps, desperate people, etc. Or inevitably, when you gather enough people into one space like an MMO, a not zero amount of them are going to have unhealthy obsession habits. I have a friend who's been stalked for years now in this game for no other reason than she spoke in discord once in an FC chatroom and now the guy simply can't leave her alone. This game also has had stalking problems because quite frankly, it's stupid easy to do when it shouldnt have been. Blacklist doesn't delete them from your sight, plenty of documented cases of GMs basically doing nothing to stop it, Lodestone profile URLs are static meaning even attempting to change character names does nothing (being hopefully addressed with the greater lodestone privacy controls), creating a new character takes all of 5 seconds so stalkers can just continue harassing their victims easily, etc.

If you're not a woman, it's not too surprising you've never had to deal with any form of a stalker - cases of stalking are predominantly lopsided towards women unfortunately for obvious reasons. If you are, then count yourself blessed - there's plenty of others who haven't been and have had to deal with this for potential years now.

On topic, thank god Square finally did this.

[Avoidy]

Unironically more excited for this feature than the entire Dawntrail MSQ. It's nearly perfect. If they'd just made unadding friends work both ways, they would've solved the harassment issue in XIV completely.

[Ardeth]

Unironically more excited for this feature than the entire Dawntrail MSQ. It's nearly perfect. If they'd just made unadding friends work both ways, they would've solved the harassment issue in XIV completely.

Dude, I know. I'm not super hyped for Dawntrail, but I want to see the meltdown the term filter alone will cause. I'm for it. I want to some some barely English decoder ring cipher stuff we are going to get so they can spam their garbage. Also, voidlist integration is awesome. This has been the key feature for me. I hate exploratory zones, so I didn't have much to look forward to, but I love chaos, brother. And it's coming.

[GTK0HLK]

It just makes me wonder if venue advertisers will try and change their text in chat to avoid players mute filters. Like instead of "Club" getting muted, they can just say "C1ub", along with "V3nue" or "DeeJ" instead of "DJ". Maybe there could be a system where you make a muted word, and then you can add similar words within that word to avoid this? I don't think we're going to get rid of RMT sellers anytime soon even with mute filters, considering how much randomness they put in their messages already, it will be hard to find a specific keyword to mute them.

It'd be almost hilarious if they get to the point where they can just type the full thing out and get away with it.

Like Saying DiscJockey for DJ, or Real <Currency> <Trade> for RMT, or other Nonsense.
Or try to pull a old Urianger.

Regardless though, I hope they either give them a place where they can be easily found/ignored, and finally learn their place/know to be more Tactful.
(Like how some have Broadcasted with a Social PF tab, and merging of Fellowships/<CW>Linkshells)

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Unironically more excited for this feature than the entire Dawntrail MSQ. It's nearly perfect. If they'd just made unadding friends work both ways, they would've solved the harassment issue in XIV completely.

Kinda Same TBH, While I am interested in the Dawntrail Table Setting for the Rest of the Games New Story Arc.

During the LL, I was falling asleep from the Lalachin/Graphics Spiel PTSD. (jokes aside, the Not 1-1 comparison made it abit annoying, so I just spent chatting with others to bear with over the topics)

But when I saw Blacklist, that woke me up EZ.
Along with the Mutes, Bouncer-ing, and Privacy.

[Erin1491]

Love this, can't wait to finally be able to walk through a town without seeing club spam and rmt. Long story overdue

[QiyoJoyo]

Believe it or not, MMOs do tend to attract people who may not necessarily have good social skills, creeps, desperate people, etc. Or inevitably, when you gather enough people into one space like an MMO, a not zero amount of them are going to have unhealthy obsession habits. I have a friend who's been stalked for years now in this game for no other reason than she spoke in discord once in an FC chatroom and now the guy simply can't leave her alone. This game also has had stalking problems because quite frankly, it's stupid easy to do when it shouldnt have been. Blacklist doesn't delete them from your sight, plenty of documented cases of GMs basically doing nothing to stop it, Lodestone profile URLs are static meaning even attempting to change character names does nothing (being hopefully addressed with the greater lodestone privacy controls), creating a new character takes all of 5 seconds so stalkers can just continue harassing their victims easily, etc.

If you're not a woman, it's not too surprising you've never had to deal with any form of a stalker - cases of stalking are predominantly lopsided towards women unfortunately for obvious reasons. If you are, then count yourself blessed - there's plenty of others who haven't been and have had to deal with this for potential years now.

On topic, thank god Square finally did this.

Ah, horny creeps, gottcha.

Thats why i play Lalafell, you like them, or you hate them. Most of the time i get pets and nice smalltalk. Long life the shortlegs!

[Xeronia]

It just makes me wonder if venue advertisers will try and change their text in chat to avoid players mute filters. Like instead of "Club" getting muted, they can just say "C1ub", along with "V3nue" or "DeeJ" instead of "DJ". Maybe there could be a system where you make a muted word, and then you can add similar words within that word to avoid this? I don't think we're going to get rid of RMT sellers anytime soon even with mute filters, considering how much randomness they put in their messages already, it will be hard to find a specific keyword to mute them.

I think this is where you see the system could work really well together with other new additions. Someone trying to get past known filters with that stuff gets added to blacklist or mute list for example.

Part of the reason ads are an issue is people make gil just running to shout in different cities on alts then get the gil on their main. In theory with the blacklist changes that alt now getting blacklisted can impact your main as every character on the account is also now blacklisted. It makes the easy gil from running ads a lot more risky.

I will say as someone that has wanted a term filter for a while now and often suggested one this is a far better solution then I could have hoped for in that regard, I set up my own filters and should something sneak past it welcome to being muted and my filter gets an update.