Dawntrail isnt a fair "vacation"

[DiaDeem]

Thats how i view it anyways, Also i really wish people would stop saying temper tantrum I get told that alot irl

Because that's the way you're behaving. You continue to make these posts and some of us have tried to be helpful and understanding, but you just keep doing the same thing.

Final Fantasy XIV is not a game about gloom and despair. Final Fantasy has never been that kind of game. Emet entrusted us with his legacy, Hermes (per Emet) set Metion for failure. Death is a very hard concept to understand for a child, so she figured everyone would want that instead of life. She was wrong. Nobody has the right to decide when to end someone else's life, and I refuse to accept you actually believe in such a thing, because that's a very dangerous thing to be parading around on the internet.

The way you speak about pain and despair also comes across as very disconnected from reality, particularly in the face of so many horrible active war zones currently in the world, yet you pretend to wish for death and despair as your life philosophy?? This is why people don't take you seriously.

If you're so obsessed with depressing games, however, there's plenty to chose from. Play the Dark Souls series, Darkwood or Project Zomboid, where there's literally no good ending.

Final Fantasy has always been a series about how there's always hope, no matter how dark things may get. Have you ever played FFVI?? One of the characters has a failed attempt, only to survive and rebuild her life. Hope is what moves this franchise, and you make it seem as if it was something frivolous, just bright for the sake of being bright and don't care about the layers that build such bright hopeful moments in the games.

People have called you a troll and yet I'm trying to be as understanding and as straight as I can, but I don't know if it's worth it. I may just delete this post if I end up regretting it.

[Octavia_Deathschoicen]

Because that's the way you're behaving. You continue to make these posts and some of us have tried to be helpful and understanding, but you just keep doing the same thing.

Final Fantasy XIV is not a game about gloom and despair. Final Fantasy has never been that kind of game. Emet entrusted us with his legacy, Hermes (per Emet) set Metion for failure. Death is a very hard concept to understand for a child, so she figured everyone would want that instead of life. She was wrong. Nobody has the right to decide when to end someone else's life, and I refuse to accept you actually believe in such a thing, because that's a very dangerous thing to be parading around on the internet.

The way you speak about pain and despair also comes across as very disconnected from reality, particularly in the face of so many horrible active war zones currently in the world, yet you pretend to wish for death and despair as your life philosophy?? This is why people don't take you seriously.

If you're so obsessed with depressing games, however, there's plenty to chose from. Play the Dark Souls series, Darkwood or Project Zomboid, where there's literally no good ending.

Final Fantasy has always been a series about how there's always hope, no matter how dark things may get. Have you ever played FFVI?? One of the characters has a failed attempt, only to survive and rebuild her life. Hope is what moves this franchise, and you make it seem as if it was something frivolous, just bright for the sake of being bright and don't care about the layers that build such bright hopeful moments in the games.

People have called you a troll and yet I'm trying to be as understanding and as straight as I can, but I don't know if it's worth it. I may just delete this post if I end up regretting it.

okay maybe.. you have a point I guess i have the Sims to simulate my type of enviorment, but in my defense final fantasy does have that for example ff10 and ff7 is very much like that. I just want the roleplay that i can understand like that, Yes dark souls is great idk about the others but that game I do know maybe I should just not post and read my books and idk put up a rp add in party finder for my type. There is also necromancers in final fantasy tatics ogre wars along with a dark path but ... Its hard okay to not desire the things i do

[DiaDeem]

okay maybe.. you have a point I guess i have the Sims to simulate my type of enviorment, but in my defense final fantasy does have that for example ff10 and ff7 is very much like that. I just want the roleplay that i can understand like that, Yes dark souls is great idk about the others but that game I do know maybe I should just not post and read my books and idk put up a rp add in party finder for my type

Both FFVII and FFX are also about hope. VII was made as a coping mechanism for Sakaguchi, as his mother had just passed away recently. Sephiroth is crazy because he thinks the best thing for the planet is for everyone to die to merge into him, and once again and like Meteion: He's wrong. Unlike Meteion however, he was too far gone. Aerith's sacrifice protected the planet. Her friends carried on and grew stronger for her, and give the planet life as she would have wanted. In XIII, Fang and Vanille also sacrifice themselves to save Cocoon and Gran Pulse as well. Final Fantasy has always had sacrifices, death and pain, but it's all for the sake of hope and pushing through the dark times.

Again: You can enjoy whatever aesthetic/literature/style you wish, but if this game just isn't providing that for you, then maybe you should stick to things that give you the experience that you're looking for. And you can post if you want, I just don't understand why keep making the posts about what XIV is not. I swear I'm trying to be as helpful as I can here, but I can only do/say so much.

Imagine if I kept making post after post over and over just complaining as to why there aren't more faeries in XIV.

[Octavia_Deathschoicen]

in truth its because its hard to find what im looking for 100% the closet is the sims, I read alot and well its hard to explain but I try to make everything like my storys and what I love, the Sims, skyrim and many other rpgs. I mean they are rpgs for a reason so i dont honestly understand this isnt like that or wont be when rpgs are like a river it can always be changed to be like that, as storys unfold plus honestly this game has bits and pieces of what i love I just desire more

[TheMightyMollusk]

She's not broken, everyone would become like Endsigner if they experience so many tragedy a lot.

The Meteia were essentially children, cast out into the void, where they found suffering, despair, and death wherever they went. It broke them, and they turned into the Endsinger. The Endsinger is literally a giant broken child.

Don't forget she didn't actually kill anyone,

The Final Days would have a few things to say about that.

[Raikai]

As said, Dawntrail isn't a fair vaction not everyone looks for comedy and a sunny glowy paradise, following the enforced hilly questline and no its not optional when you lock things like relic and certain dungeons and trails behind it. I am honestly not looking forward are feel any kind of excitement for dawntrail because Meteion and zenos are my kind of characters, there releatable and right (dark Meteion). The fact we get so much comedy already is annoying, its like gaint lie to the characters themselves. Regardless I find it highly unfair that we get so much comedy, that just auto deletes any darkness and depth.

Also If you are going to keep doing those dumb questlines "hildy" its only fair to add in a counteractive side questline that is just along perhaps something with a voidsent that has some actrual depth and relatability than just dumb worthless annoying comedy. The lack of any real work towards the void is honestly pathetic.

Its not a vaction in dawntrail its going to be like 3 months of annoying comedy that is honestly the worse kind of "vaction" no where near what I would consinder a vaction. What a vaction really is, is going into dark and spooky areas visiting things such as the void. and hanging out with characters like Zenos and dark Meteion, not spending time with annoying comedy hopeful bright characters.


In real life terms, a "vaction" is going to see Ann Rice or perhaps going to a haunted location or Salem not going to a bright and cheerfully annoying are.

Maybe you missed the FanFest in which YP hinted Dawntrail having something like 2 different story arcs? One we clearly know being the throne dispute, the other is defnitely centered around Solution 9 and it doesn't look 'vacation-y' at all.

[Boblawblah]

okay maybe.. you have a point I guess i have the Sims to simulate my type of enviorment, but in my defense final fantasy does have that for example ff10 and ff7 is very much like that. I just want the roleplay that i can understand like that, Yes dark souls is great idk about the others but that game I do know maybe I should just not post and read my books and idk put up a rp add in party finder for my type. There is also necromancers in final fantasy tatics ogre wars along with a dark path but ... Its hard okay to not desire the things i do

Hey Chloe, I think you might really enjoy Ranni's questline in Elden Ring. It's one of my favorite storylines in video games in general. There's no real humour, or silliness, and there is plenty of darkness, and not just edgy darkness either. But they're is also hope/love.

[Sea-Wolf]

The Meteia were essentially children, cast out into the void, where they found suffering, despair, and death wherever they went. It broke them, and they turned into the Endsinger. The Endsinger is literally a giant broken child.



The Final Days would have a few things to say about that.

The Final Days is caused by Endsigner, not Metion, Metion got corrupted by the dynamis and Endsigner took control of her body, but she actually was conscious the whole time trying to resist, which is why she sending a bird to find you, and why you see the bird (Metion's spirit) guiding you in the last dungeon.

[Lousis]

With that Meteia stuff, it'll be more fitting had something else caused the Final Days narratively.

[Octavia_Deathschoicen]

Okay lets see if i can put this in a way that can be more um w/e.

I understand the hope and dark over comeness, which is okay but I guess what im trying to say is yes im saying death and despair which is truth in its own, however i dont mean it the way people are taking it. I'm going to try to put what i mean in a way it might be understandable.

Im not sure if anyone has read much but what i mean by darker and more gloomyness is well i dont know how to put it and im trying to think of a way, but this is best i can do is an example of a type of scene and part i am really looking forward to.

Final battle at the end, after endsinger Zenos and you beat up each other right. Well maybe instend of him perm dying, perhaps he becomes like a void vampire royalty that comes back as a potentional love entrance for those that want it. and could have scenes where its more Dark romance talk, like finding beauty in death, or going to date in hakku manor. While what ive said is true on the death and decay stuff, its not the way people think I just mean Like a dark paradise. For example lets say you go on a date with idk thancrad and its all red roses, tea sun set beachs, what Im really wanting is the complete opposite but still a similar take just dark and spooky verison of it.

idk if its making any sense but idk how else to explain it.

maybe a better wording is like the world is against you all, but you find peace and relaxing being on your while the world hates and hunts you down you dont care as long as you have your dark vampire guy, or perhaps a werewolf. Like in one of my books the world sees the group as mentally ill but they are just supernatural creatures that were told the lie.