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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrycake View Post
    The reason I'm asking isn;t to play coy, it's to help you make a correction as their is a Distinct difference between "Solo Players" which I stated, and "People who want to play the MMO like it's a single player game" which can affect how your feed back comes across when translated. The Term for Solo player is a well known term used for a specific player type and MMOs rarely cater to them as they're usually higher end players who are very skilled at the game and can carry by themselves or just outright solo group content with pure skill, a play style XIV functionally doesn't allow to exist. The latter are people who literally don't wanna play the MMO as an MMO.


    But you can be that way to and possibly make a point that can't be translated to Nihongo(The Japanese language) properly, or just outright not translated as some words we use literally do not exist in Nihongo. So it'll end up being them winging it with an explination that may still be wrong.

    Or you can be like that and miss the point, that works to.
    I don't get why you're trying to debate something that apparently has no effect on you. Everyone else here knows what I mean, and everyone is painfully aware of what Endwalker became of this; to people who wanted the game to have more singleplayer aspects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fantasiaaddict View Post
    I don't get why you're trying to debate something that apparently has no effect on you. Everyone else here knows what I mean, and everyone is painfully aware of what Endwalker became of this; to people who wanted the game to have more singleplayer aspects.

    I'm not debating, just trying to help so your point is understood is all. As if this is taken literally without nuance as it stands it could have effects on the game. Your base point when read in both languages has no nuance and Solo player within the language means something totally different to people who want to play an MMO like a single player game. Thats all.


    Or a better way is yes we understand you in english, but when translated it's taken very literally, as in Solo players who don't play with friends, not solo players who don't want to play MMOs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fantasiaaddict View Post
    I don't get why you're trying to debate something that apparently has no effect on you. Everyone else here knows what I mean, and everyone is painfully aware of what Endwalker became of this; to people who wanted the game to have more singleplayer aspects.
    No, we don't know what you're referring to. Every MMORPG is solo friendly in some way or another because friends can't always be online at the same time but they still want for things to do when that happens. WoW became massively popular because it was extremely solo friendly compared to the other MMORPGs of the time.

    If you can't be specific in making your point and just keep repeating that "everyone knows", you come across as a troll.

    Despite the solo friendly aspects like Duty Support, the game is still ultimately pushing players into the social and group aspects. Can't do roulettes with Duty Support. If you want those roulette bonuses, you have to play with others. Can't do high content solo and synced. If you want those rewards while they remain meaningful to the community then you need to do the content with other players.

    So what is your specific concern?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fantasiaaddict View Post
    Everyone else here knows what I mean
    I promise you the devs won't know what you mean unless you are explicit because the people who translate for them don't always pick the best words if you don't word what you say very carefully. Even then, they will still probably translate it poorly so you do need to be much clearer about what you mean. Cake isn't just trying to be pedantic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    I promise you the devs won't know what you mean unless you are explicit because the people who translate for them don't always pick the best words if you don't word what you say very carefully. Even then, they will still probably translate it poorly so you do need to be much clearer about what you mean. Cake isn't just trying to be pedantic.

    I mean the thread is already derailing due to the lack of being explicit. But they wanna be stubborn so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrycake View Post
    I mean the thread is already derailing due to the lack of being explicit. But they wanna be stubborn so.
    I mean people discussing treatment of lallafel players on a thread about accomodating solo players has nothing do with the OP not being explicit in their wording
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I mean people discussing treatment of lallafel players on a thread about accomodating solo players has nothing do with the OP not being explicit in their wording

    It does because the person who said that wouldn't have had the basis to say it at all because the topic would have been "FFXIV needs to stop accommodating Single player features in an MMO"
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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrycake View Post
    It does because the person who said that wouldn't have had the basis to say it at all because the topic would have been "FFXIV needs to stop accommodating Single player features in an MMO"
    The original lala player would have made exactly the same point

    “I don’t want them to stop accomodating single player features in an MMO because then I have to interact more with the community which treats lala’s like garbage”

    There is no way you can specify the original intent of OP’s point to exclude that comment while still making the same point
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    I disagree from that.

    Signed: Solo Player.
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