Solution 9 - Unfounded Speculation!

[Cleretic]

It's not only the most logical explanation of how an advanced civilization would be on the source that's NOT Allag in origin and not already destroyed after 7 Calamities but also the only one that would have any reasonable sense,

My counterargument to this theory is one word:

Bozja.

Bozja didn't just survive the calamity that killed Allag, it survived every single one afterwards, too. Most of the Far East seemed to survive them, in fact, but Bozja's a good one to highlight because they weren't exactly a superpower with a lot of ways to survive major disasters; in fact, they're kind of a mess. The Calamities aren't actually global, the Ascians just kept cooking them up on Eorzea to the point where they were marking the calendar by them; by the time you get to Othard, they're a blip. How hard they hit Ilsabard is a mystery, but Tural is much further out than that.

I find it absolutely unsurprising that a civilization in Tural could've just... survived a few Calamities with no more knowledge of them than 'those guys over the pond blew themselves up again'. Especially one as advanced as Solution Nine And that's even putting aside that all our evidence that they are super-old is circumstantial to the point where I don't necessarily buy it.

[kaynide]

My counterargument to this theory is one word:

Bozja.

Bozja didn't just survive the calamity that killed Allag, it survived every single one afterwards, too. Most of the Far East seemed to survive them, in fact, but Bozja's a good one to highlight because they weren't exactly a superpower with a lot of ways to survive major disasters; in fact, they're kind of a mess. The Calamities aren't actually global, the Ascians just kept cooking them up on Eorzea to the point where they were marking the calendar by them; by the time you get to Othard, they're a blip. How hard they hit Ilsabard is a mystery, but Tural is much further out than that.

I find it absolutely unsurprising that a civilization in Tural could've just... survived a few Calamities with no more knowledge of them than 'those guys over the pond blew themselves up again'. Especially one as advanced as Solution Nine And that's even putting aside that all our evidence that they are super-old is circumstantial to the point where I don't necessarily buy it.

This raises a point for wild speculation:.

Assuming Tural was largely unaffected by Eorzean calamities, and had their irregular “wtf, they blew themselves up again” moments/recorded history, the recent crisis with citizens turning into blasphemies could very well be seen as “omg wtf did they do THiS time??”.

Even though it wasn’t our fault, some in Tural might use it as justification for sending an army.

[Cleretic]

This raises a point for wild speculation:.

Assuming Tural was largely unaffected by Eorzean calamities, and had their irregular “wtf, they blew themselves up again” moments/recorded history, the recent crisis with citizens turning into blasphemies could very well be seen as “omg wtf did they do THiS time??”.

Even though it wasn’t our fault, some in Tural might use it as justification for sending an army.

I doubt this is true just because I get the idea that the Turalians probably wouldn't blame us for what seemed to be a worldwide tragedy (it's worth noting that they do have contact with Limsa so they wouldn't be totally blind to us), I do like the notion of someone's response to it being 'Okay it was PROBABLY you guys, what the hell'.