Let's play a game: Save the Ancients!

[ZavosEsperian]

I have been playing since 3.5/late 2015. I am also an altoholic, I have multiple alts that not only have not completed endwalker, but are below level 80. It doesn't mean a damn thing. And even those who do have a job at cap generally have one or two jobs at most at cap because leveling secondary jobs is a pain in the rear.

I am guilty of doing the same thing. I am a 2.0 player who has been subbed to the game for 10 years as my Total Days Subscribed is equal to 3,660 days. I do not think there is a need for me to prove I have played a specific part of the story, particularly when I am able to cite sources related to the material without too much effort. I have done this in multiple threads so far and will absolutely post sources as needed. With this topic, it is forgotten that this is more on the whims of the writers, thus there is no definitive yes or no answer.

The individual you are interacting with has failed to cite sources that could sway my opinion away from my original argument. I ask for these since there are a lot of headcanons on the lore forums, and as such I ask the arguments against my claim are met with the same level of respect, namely citing of sources, in order to counter the claim I make which relies on a lore Q&A session from 2022 where the writers do not explicitly state a definitive yes or no to the main question of this thread and instead use "probably" as the term of choice when regarding how the Ancients would end up. As such, there is no definitive answer.

With this in mind, it is likely the person either:

- Does not entirely know the lore of the game and/or does not know about the Q&A sessions from the writers, thus is unable to find citations that are capable of refuting my points.

OR

- Knows I am correct, but wishes to discredit me via using an appeal to accomplishment argument, which is a fallacious argument since the logic of the argument is not challenged and instead what I have or have not done is challenged which is largely irrelevant to proving whether something is true or false. This argument is also a type of appeal to authority, and as such this entire thing about whether or not I played the game can be wholly discarded and does not do anything for their argument.

Based on the amount of headcanoning, I am unable to rule out the first of these two cases, though it is more likely than not the second case is true. As stated before, the person can give me citations which back up their claims and I will look them over and see if there are any logical faults or issues with their reasoning. I do not believe this should be a difficult task and I am willing to hear out the argument, provided it has actual backing and not headcanon arguments which are absolutely meaningless to me.