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  1. #11
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    Avoidy's Avatar
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    Chadhadai Oronir
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    Balmung
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    Ninja Lv 83
    Quote Originally Posted by SailorCeti View Post
    The last time an electrician came to our house to fix something, they used one or two tools at a time, rather than everything in their pouch. The point is, you aren't supposed, or expected, to use every single ability you have with every encounter. You have your core rotation, some buffs, some debuffs, some niche utilities, and the rest are mostly circumstantial. While it's true that in some instances, you can pull off a fight using only a small subset of your abilities, but you're exaggerating things by a landslide. I could be wrong, but I get the feeling you've fixed on this idea and just want to complain. I suppose that's fair. We all need to vent every once in a while. Just relax and try to wrap your head around the concept of a toolbox containing things for many applications, despite not needing all of them with every job. Breath, then let it go and enjoy the game. If you cannot do that, there are other games you can try. It's like complaining about McDonalds chicken sandwiches when you can just go to another chain and get one you do like.
    Wanting to press more buttons and have more fun in a video game is not the same thing as performing an actual IRL job efficiently by doing less. This is such a stupid comparison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shialan View Post
    I don't get it. Do you really have nothing better to do with your life than creating shitpost after shitpost?
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    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshida-san
    Let's consider another theoretical mod: one that displays your character entirely naked.

  2. #12
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    Allegor's Avatar
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    Red Rider
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SailorCeti View Post
    The last time an electrician came to our house to fix something, they used one or two tools at a time, rather than everything in their pouch. The point is, you aren't supposed, or expected, to use every single ability you have with every encounter. You have your core rotation, some buffs, some debuffs, some niche utilities, and the rest are mostly circumstantial. While it's true that in some instances, you can pull off a fight using only a small subset of your abilities, but you're exaggerating things by a landslide. I could be wrong, but I get the feeling you've fixed on this idea and just want to complain. I suppose that's fair. We all need to vent every once in a while. Just relax and try to wrap your head around the concept of a toolbox containing things for many applications, despite not needing all of them with every job. Breath, then let it go and enjoy the game. If you cannot do that, there are other games you can try. It's like complaining about McDonalds chicken sandwiches when you can just go to another chain and get one you do like.
    I mean, intention to stirr the pot or not, they're not wrong. There's a difference between not needing 100% of your kit for every fight, and 80% of your kit being situational at best. I don't play Savage or EX, let alone Ultimate, so take my opinion with a grain of salt, but as a lv 90 WHM I could do my job properly with ONLY Glare, Holy, lily spells, Assize, and Asylum. Even Benediction and Raise are a "what if" rather than "I NEED these." so roughly 2/3 (or even 3/4) of all my actions are just sitting there collecting dust regardless of what level or type of content I'm doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Can't increase healing requirements because "it'd stress the newbies"
    Can't increase dps options either because "it'd stress the newbies"
    so apparently the only option that doesn't "stress the newbies" is either pressing 1211111111, or do nothing at all.

  3. #13
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    Neoyoshi's Avatar
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    Neoyoshi Kaligawa
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    Gilgamesh
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    Monk Lv 100
    Meanwhile i'm playing my Monk using pretty much my whole kit (plus using Faint) all the frick'n time when the content permits it.

    If this complaint is focusing on level-sync'd content.... then i feel like that's a completely different type of conversation to have, but players should be making use of their full kit at current content; otherwise they are just... well i don't know, i can only speak for Monk and Myself.

    We definitely aren't the same though.
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  4. #14
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    Gemina's Avatar
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    I mean, intention to stirr the pot or not, they're not wrong. There's a difference between not needing 100% of your kit for every fight, and 80% of your kit being situational at best. I don't play Savage or EX, let alone Ultimate, so take my opinion with a grain of salt, but as a lv 90 WHM I could do my job properly with ONLY Glare, Holy, lily spells, Assize, and Asylum. Even Benediction and Raise are a "what if" rather than "I NEED these." so roughly 2/3 (or even 3/4) of all my actions are just sitting there collecting dust regardless of what level or type of content I'm doing.
    Crappy attitude and validity aside, the issue is the OP offers no suggestions on what can be done about it. His contribution is only to add to the toxic cesspool of the forums and to attack anyone who does not share the same kind of ire he does, or reflects it right back at him.

    When you can only complain, you are not a solution the problem. You're part of it.
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  5. #15
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    Karma Dunkelsonn
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    Shiva
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    Warrior Lv 91
    Between the hyperbole and the vague information I'm not sure which of two very different topics this thread is trying to tackle.

    If you are a DPS not a lot of your kit is optional so generally you want to use the majority of what is available to you at any one time.
    Healers may feel different about this but then I'm of the opinion that the devs never figured out what they want healer gameplay and balance to be like so we're stuck with the mess we have until they do.

    If this is about level syncing and some levels "breaking" some Jobs harder than others then yes, there are cases where getting synced below a certain level can make Jobs feel absolutely bad.
    My favorite least favorite example of this is getting Brayflox with two Dragoons, it's a miserable experience for everyone involved.
    New Jobs seem to handle this better, not feeling great but at least not feeling completely broken in certain ARR dungeons. I don't think they'll ever find a way to make level syncing feel good, because losing a part of your kit you've grown accustomed to seldom does, but there's Jobs that could do with some restructuring to at least allow for basic feature parity at certain dungeon level breakpoints.
    Personally, I just learned to avoid the issue by identifying which classes feel the worst for me when synced to certain levels and just avoiding to run roulettes liable of syncing me down to those levels on them.
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  7. #16
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    Jojoya's Avatar
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by yaba_gabagool View Post
    Hope you like 4 abilities, kid.
    You could stick to doing just end game content (or at least current job level content) 100% of the time.

    It's your choice to participate in the roulettes where you know in advance you will be placed into lower level content.

    I can't agree with the idea that having your full toolkit will make Sastasha fun to do for the 67th time. It's still just Sastasha in the end. Same with other dungeons.

    Quote Originally Posted by missTori View Post
    there's literally 5 other threads about why this game sucks, and i cant figure out why so many people keep playing something they are clearly burned out of
    (only came back for event items and i've been gone for 10months)
    Addiction and/or sunk cost fallacy usually.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 03-10-2024 at 07:04 AM.

  8. #17
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    TheMightyMollusk's Avatar
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by missTori View Post
    there's literally 5 other threads about why this game sucks,
    Only five? Slow day.
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  9. #18
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    Yaba Gabagool
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    Gilgamesh
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Crappy attitude and validity aside, the issue is the OP offers no suggestions on what can be done about it. His contribution is only to add to the toxic cesspool of the forums and to attack anyone who does not share the same kind of ire he does, or reflects it right back at him.

    When you can only complain, you are not a solution the problem. You're part of it.
    Victim complex. The only one with a bad attitude is you. Fanbois destroy games, please self reflect.
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  10. #19
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    Celesti Cer
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    Jenova
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    Alchemist Lv 100


    Hissatsu: Shinten > Hissatsu: Shinten > Hissatsu: Shinten > Hissatsu: Shinten > Hissatsu: Shinten > Hissatsu: Shinten > Hissatsu: Shinten > Hiss-Hiss-ShinShinShinShin ( DJ Scratches the Turntable ) Shinten > Shinten > Shinten > Shinten > Shinten > Shinten > Shinten > Shinten > Shinten...

    Wish it was a meme, but after horrible changes? this has become quite literally, factually and statistically speaking 1/5th of our Gameplay...
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  11. #20
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Crappy attitude and validity aside, the issue is the OP offers no suggestions on what can be done about it. His contribution is only to add to the toxic cesspool of the forums and to attack anyone who does not share the same kind of ire he does, or reflects it right back at him.

    When you can only complain, you are not a solution the problem. You're part of it.
    The devs don’t read these forums anyway, if they did they would have enough suggestions (good and bad) to make 64 other MMO’s on top of this one, why is a complaint on the complaints forum only valid if you provide a solution, especially since we all know you’d disregard the criticism of you don’t like the solution either
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