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    The game is not in trouble in the sense that the current status quo will cause a massive flux of players to cancel their subs. If that is the focus of this thread or any thread, it is misdirected. Players have shown time and time again that they will remain subbed regardless of their complaints and criticisms. Sure, some players have left but for each sub lost the game has acquired two more, and many players who no longer play are still subbed.

    The true concern I see is if the game can stay away from political agendas that are affecting western games. The problem is SE is one of the eastern companies conforming to ESG standards, and its influence has already infected FFXIV. Right now, it is a contained infection but it is there none the less. If there is anything that would cause players to leave the game in droves, it's this. SE could easily be Budlighted if they are not careful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    The game is not in trouble in the sense that the current status quo will cause a massive flux of players to cancel their subs. If that is the focus of this thread or any thread, it is misdirected. Players have shown time and time again that they will remain subbed regardless of their complaints and criticisms. Sure, some players have left but for each sub lost the game has acquired two more, and many players who no longer play are still subbed.

    The true concern I see is if the game can stay away from political agendas that are affecting western games. The problem is SE is one of the eastern companies conforming to ESG standards, and its influence has already infected FFXIV. Right now, it is a contained infection but it is there none the less. If there is anything that would cause players to leave the game in droves, it's this. SE could easily be Budlighted if they are not careful.
    Considering in the states we have about a 50% voter participation, I don't think politics could sway it much one way or the other (unless it was super obvious to the point of annoyance). But who knows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozzmal View Post
    Considering in the states we have about a 50% voter participation, I don't think politics could sway it much one way or the other (unless it was super obvious to the point of annoyance). But who knows.
    Assuming this figure is correct, should the game lose 50% of its subs, that would be bad. Really bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    The game is not in trouble in the sense that the current status quo will cause a massive flux of players to cancel their subs. If that is the focus of this thread or any thread, it is misdirected. Players have shown time and time again that they will remain subbed regardless of their complaints and criticisms. Sure, some players have left but for each sub lost the game has acquired two more, and many players who no longer play are still subbed.

    The true concern I see is if the game can stay away from political agendas that are affecting western games. The problem is SE is one of the eastern companies conforming to ESG standards, and its influence has already infected FFXIV. Right now, it is a contained infection but it is there none the less. If there is anything that would cause players to leave the game in droves, it's this. SE could easily be Budlighted if they are not careful.
    Uh, the game already has people of color, women in positions of power (excelling in combat and/or politics), people who are interested in the same sex romantically, and people who claim to have no gender. The game is already as '' woke '' as Japanese games come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tehmon View Post
    Uh, the game already has people of color, women in positions of power (excelling in combat and/or politics), people who are interested in the same sex romantically, and people who claim to have no gender. The game is already as '' woke '' as Japanese games come.
    Other than the non-binary aspect you mentioned, which no one in the game claims to be, none of this is woke.

    Current woke agendas would involve excluding white NPCs because they are over represented, claiming female avatars are too sexy and unrealistic, self-inserts from the development team, or race swapping Derplander along with the poor excuse for doing it that makes no sense. Even if you want to say the game is as woke as Japanese games comes, it most certainly is not as woke as western games come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tehmon View Post
    Uh, the game already has people of color, women in positions of power (excelling in combat and/or politics), people who are interested in the same sex romantically, and people who claim to have no gender. The game is already as '' woke '' as Japanese games come.
    Idk why any of this should bother anyone. This isn't really political it's just people living their best lives.
    Now if the game starts talking about tax policy I'm leaving not out of principle but out of boredom.
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