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    Quote Originally Posted by Karious View Post
    Goodness that's a bit of a reach to say that I'm discriminating against transphobes... First it's transphobic to criticize a voice actor, and now it's discrimination to not want transphobes in here??? I'm so confused...
    On a purely technical level you are discriminating against transphobes if you're telling them they're not welcome, and it's not something I would lose any sleep over. There are groups that are perfectly fine to discriminate against in that way, including homo- or transphobes as well as racists.

    Whether that is discriminating against people with mental disorders is armchair psychology I'm not going to entertain, if those people have legitimate mental issues they should seek help.

    On the topic of the voice acting: As someone who doesn't usually use the english localization my only exposure to the english voice is the comparision video linked in this thread and the voice sounds okay to me. It comes across different from the other languages but it's adequate to my "untrained" ear and by far not the first time the english localization shakes things up when compared to the other languages.

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    Edited to add this reply, I don't want to derail the thread further by posting it as a seperate reply. This isn't the place for that discussion:
    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    That is, until the definition gets altered so that the bar for being considered one is so low it's in hell, so much so that anyone could be considered one for looking the wrong way at someone.
    But that's the very same thing I'm against, now it's just the other end of the spectrum doing it. What gives you the idea that's any different?
    This line of thinking you've espoused is why it's become popular to virtue signal and do public takedowns, by the way. If it's ok to discriminate against people you deem hateful, then you just have to find an excuse to deem them hateful, and then you may excuse all of your behavior towards them.
    Just because an equally harmful ideology is using it as a front doesn't mean it's wrong to take a stand against, y'know, harmful ideologies.
    I've seen where those ideologies lead and the world is already moving in that same direction. Again.
    If the world at large now chooses to tolerate those ideologies out of a fear of being called out by lunatics warping the definition of a word until it loses all meaning we're doomed to repeat history. I'd rather not.
    I'm old enough to retain what is nowadays exceedingly uncommon sense and will exercise it.
    It's a real, honest to gosh horrible way to think.
    Think what you will, I for one will continue to take a stand against harmful ideologies no matter what end of the spectrum breeds them. Cancel culture as a whole is just as bad.
    Just because some day someone might twist the meaning of a word to fit their agenda my position isn't wrong. When they do it's up to us to tell them they're wrong and fools for trying to do so.

    Too much tolerance can become just as much of a posion as too little of it.
    I can harbor no tolerance for bigots and will continue to tell them they are not welcome.
    Let us just agree to disagree.
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    Last edited by Astrus; 02-29-2024 at 12:38 AM. Reason: Adding a reply to a quote