Please more housing wards soon. And no more FC/Private Hybrid.

[Palin]

1. I DO NOT WANT to transfer to a new data center to get a house.

2. I DO NOT WANT to leave my FC, and my friends behind or my SO.

3. I DO NOT WANT to leave a good RP spot behind. So stop this crap with ''OH JUST MOVE ITS SO EASY LUL''

They always tell you to transfer character to an empty server and then use data center travel but they forgot to mention that you cannot:
- use retainers
- gather legendary nodes
- check linkshells
- enter verminion tournaments
- enter triple triad tournaments
- play jumbo cackpot
- check your ingame mail
- play ranked crystalline conflict
- get invited to a wedding

So you either get stuck alone in an empty server or constant hopping back and forth just to use a retainer drives you insane. All for a house. Great idea guys

[Daeriion_Aeradiir]

So you either get stuck alone in an empty server or constant hopping back and forth just to use a retainer drives you insane. All for a house. Great idea guys

People suggest it because being extremely blunt, it is the only solution you'll get for a long time. 7.1 is realistically the earliest they'll do any sort of housing, if they actually want to add anything, and that's realistically a year ish away.

The beginning of EW & when Island Sanctuary dropped showcase that the Housing server does not have enough instances to support the entire playerbase, as people were getting locked out of being able to enter their homes entirely during those periods of time due to too many instances open at the same time. Meaning any solution to give every player unequivocal access to a house will -not- work and will instead introduce an entirely different and much more serious problem in its stead.

The devs have constantly mentioned they want the playerbase to spread out across the datacenters, so housing is a good mechanic to drag people kicking and screaming to Dynamis/smaller servers. They have zero reason to put in any more housing until Dynamis & smaller servers fills up.

If you want a house without torturing yourself on hilariously low lottery odds from huge competition, you go to Dynamis or a smaller server. If you want to stay on a larger server, you play ridiculous odds in the lottery and realistically don't get a house.
Pick your poison, because an antidote ain't coming for a loooongggg time. It's the uncaring, blunt reality, and why people suggest to go somewhere else. Staying on huge RP servers with huge housing demand like Balmung or Mateus is a self-inflicted punishment that more wards won't even fix in reality.

Also speaking as someone who has tons of friends on both Aether & Crystal and hops between both near daily to play with the different friend groups, I really don't get why people say anything like 'leaving their friends behind'. You can literally go right back and play with them in <1min at any point. And if they won't join a CWLS because you no longer share an FC to keep easy communication between you when you're travelling back to play with them? Then hate to break it to ya, they weren't really your friends.

[Impia]

People suggest it because being extremely blunt, it is the only solution you'll get for a long time. 7.1 is realistically the earliest they'll do any sort of housing, if they actually want to add anything, and that's realistically a year ish away.

The beginning of EW & when Island Sanctuary dropped showcase that the Housing server does not have enough instances to support the entire playerbase, as people were getting locked out of being able to enter their homes entirely during those periods of time due to too many instances open at the same time. Meaning any solution to give every player unequivocal access to a house will -not- work and will instead introduce an entirely different and much more serious problem in its stead.

The devs have constantly mentioned they want the playerbase to spread out across the datacenters, so housing is a good mechanic to drag people kicking and screaming to Dynamis/smaller servers. They have zero reason to put in any more housing until Dynamis & smaller servers fills up.

If you want a house without torturing yourself on hilariously low lottery odds from huge competition, you go to Dynamis or a smaller server. If you want to stay on a larger server, you play ridiculous odds in the lottery and realistically don't get a house.
Pick your poison, because an antidote ain't coming for a loooongggg time. It's the uncaring, blunt reality, and why people suggest to go somewhere else. Staying on huge RP servers with huge housing demand like Balmung or Mateus is a self-inflicted punishment that more wards won't even fix in reality.

Also speaking as someone who has tons of friends on both Aether & Crystal and hops between both near daily to play with the different friend groups, I really don't get why people say anything like 'leaving their friends behind'. You can literally go right back and play with them in <1min at any point. And if they won't join a CWLS because you no longer share an FC to keep easy communication between you when you're travelling back to play with them? Then hate to break it to ya, they weren't really your friends.

All of this is correct, but it's really only a band-aid solution even then with withering odds. Last round my FC bid on a medium in Lavender beds and it had 65 bids by day 3. Not sure how many bids there were by the time we claimed the plot last week, but I would estimate the number was extremely high and winning with one bid was nothing short of a miracle. This was plot 11 Lavender beds on Maduin, by the way. Transferring to Dynamis is absolutely no guarantee of success, and the best window of opportunity has already come and gone.

[AlexiaD]

All of this is correct, but it's really only a band-aid solution even then with withering odds. Last round my FC bid on a medium in Lavender beds and it had 65 bids by day 3. Not sure how many bids there were by the time we claimed the plot last week, but I would estimate the number was extremely high and winning with one bid was nothing short of a miracle. This was plot 11 Lavender beds on Maduin, by the way. Transferring to Dynamis is absolutely no guarantee of success, and the best window of opportunity has already come and gone.

Plot 11 in LB is the most popular along with 41 in subdiv, duh?

There are med goblets with literally 0 bids or close to it every cycle. Same with empy.

Those are the open meds right now on Dynamis and the amount of bids :

Marilith :

The Lavender Beds Ward 17 Plot 16 Medium 20,000,000 6 Accepting Entries Individual 1 hour ago 2 days ago
Mist Ward 7 Plot 44 Medium 17,000,000 3 Accepting Entries Free Company 1 day ago 4 days ago
Mist Ward 13 Plot 30 Medium 20,000,000 3 Accepting Entries Individual 1 day ago 6 days ago
The Goblet Ward 7 Plot 19 Medium 20,000,000 3 Accepting Entries Free Company 2 hours ago 6 days ago
Shirogane Ward 22 Plot 15 Medium 18,000,000 3 Accepting Entries Individual 10 hours ago 7 days ago
Shirogane Ward 12 Plot 54 Medium 19,000,000 2 Accepting Entries Individual 12 hours ago 6 days ago
Mist Ward 21 Plot 7 Medium 16,000,000 1 Accepting Entries Individual 38 minutes ago 3 days ago
Mist Ward 24 Plot 4 Medium 20,000,000 1 Accepting Entries Individual 15 hours ago 8 days ago
The Lavender Beds Ward 14 Plot 57 Medium 19,000,000 1 Accepting Entries Individual 1 day ago 9 days ago
The Goblet Ward 18 Plot 19 Medium 20,000,000 1 Accepting Entries Individual 1 day ago 9 days ago
Shirogane Ward 21 Plot 43 Medium 17,000,000 1 Accepting Entries Individual 1 day ago 7 days ago
Mist Ward 21 Plot 31 Medium 19,000,000 0 Accepting Entries Individual 1 day ago 3 days ago
The Goblet Ward 9 Plot 11 Medium 16,000,000 0 Accepting Entries Free Company 20 hours ago 6 days ago
The Goblet Ward 23 Plot 19 Medium 20,000,000 0 Accepting Entries Individual 1 day ago 3 days ago
Shirogane Ward 13 Plot 43 Medium 17,000,000 0 Accepting Entries Individual 11 hours ago 4 days ago
Shirogane Ward 20 Plot 43 Medium 17,000,000 0 Accepting Entries Individual 11 hours ago 1 day ago
Empyreum Ward 17 Plot 2 Medium 19,000,000 0 Accepting Entries Individual 1 day ago 4 days ago

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Maduin :

Empyreum Ward 7 Plot 8 Medium 19,000,000 5 Accepting Entries Free Company 8 hours ago 8 days ago
Empyreum Ward 7 Plot 17 Medium 18,000,000 5 Accepting Entries Free Company 8 hours ago 8 days ago
Empyreum Ward 2 Plot 21 Medium 20,000,000 3 Accepting Entries Free Company 7 hours ago 1 day ago
Empyreum Ward 13 Plot 51 Medium 20,000,000 3 Accepting Entries Individual 8 hours ago 10 days ago
The Goblet Ward 11 Plot 41 Medium 16,000,000 2 Accepting Entries Individual 19 hours ago 5 days ago
Shirogane Ward 2 Plot 54 Medium 19,000,000 2 Accepting Entries Free Company 7 hours ago 1 day ago
Shirogane Ward 15 Plot 1 Medium 20,000,000 2 Accepting Entries Individual 1 day ago 3 days ago
The Lavender Beds Ward 10 Plot 1 Medium 18,000,000 1 Accepting Entries Individual 1 day ago 9 days ago
The Lavender Beds Ward 20 Plot 51 Medium 17,000,000 1 Accepting Entries Individual 1 day ago 7 days ago
The Lavender Beds Ward 21 Plot 1 Medium 18,000,000 1 Accepting Entries Individual 1 day ago 6 days ago
The Lavender Beds Ward 22 Plot 1 Medium 18,000,000 1 Accepting Entries Individual 1 day ago 6 days ago
The Goblet Ward 13 Plot 34 Medium 19,000,000 1 Accepting Entries Individual 1 day ago 5 days ago
Empyreum Ward 3 Plot 8 Medium 19,000,000 1 Accepting Entries Free Company 8 hours ago 6 days ago
Empyreum Ward 10 Plot 47 Medium 18,000,000 1 Accepting Entries Individual 1 day ago 3 days ago
Empyreum Ward 13 Plot 37 Medium 19,000,000 1 Accepting Entries Individual 16 hours ago 3 days ago
Empyreum Ward 22 Plot 47 Medium 18,000,000 1 Accepting Entries Individual 1 day ago 14 days ago
Mist Ward 2 Plot 37 Medium 16,000,000 0 Unavailable Free Company 8 hours ago 21 hours ago
Mist Ward 22 Plot 37 Medium 16,000,000 0 Unavailable Individual 1 day ago 1 day ago
The Goblet Ward 11 Plot 4 Medium 19,000,000 0 Accepting Entries Individual 19 hours ago 4 days ago
The Goblet Ward 13 Plot 42 Medium 16,000,000 0 Accepting Entries Individual 1 day ago 3 days ago
The Goblet Ward 14 Plot 25 Medium 16,000,000 0 Unavailable Individual 1 day ago 1 day ago
The Goblet Ward 23 Plot 12 Medium 16,000,000 0 Accepting Entries Individual 1 day ago 4 days ago
Shirogane Ward 15 Plot 54 Medium 19,000,000 0 Accepting Entries Individual 1 day ago 6 days ago

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Halicarnassus

Mist Ward 7 Plot 4 Medium 20,000,000 15 Accepting Entries Free Company 1 hour ago 9 days ago
The Goblet Ward 3 Plot 42 Medium 16,000,000 7 Accepting Entries Free Company 15 hours ago 7 days ago
Shirogane Ward 13 Plot 38 Medium 20,000,000 7 Accepting Entries Individual 34 minutes ago 8 days ago
The Lavender Beds Ward 23 Plot 31 Medium 18,000,000 5 Accepting Entries Individual 8 hours ago 6 days ago
Shirogane Ward 20 Plot 49 Medium 20,000,000 5 Accepting Entries Individual 23 hours ago 3 days ago
The Lavender Beds Ward 20 Plot 35 Medium 16,000,000 4 Accepting Entries Individual 2 hours ago 2 days ago
Empyreum Ward 9 Plot 56 Medium 19,000,000 3 Accepting Entries Free Company 2 hours ago 9 days ago
Empyreum Ward 10 Plot 51 Medium 20,000,000 3 Accepting Entries Individual 1 hour ago 3 days ago
Shirogane Ward 20 Plot 45 Medium 18,000,000 2 Accepting Entries Individual 23 hours ago 7 days ago
Empyreum Ward 2 Plot 32 Medium 19,000,000 1 Accepting Entries Free Company 5 hours ago 5 days ago

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And even on Seraph which is currently the biggest Dynamis world, it's more than doable to get a medium house.

Mist Ward 2 Plot 6 Medium 20,000,000 57 Accepting Entries Free Company 2 hours ago 4 days ago
Shirogane Ward 6 Plot 43 Medium 17,000,000 28 Accepting Entries Free Company 4 hours ago 8 days ago
Mist Ward 2 Plot 4 Medium 20,000,000 26 Accepting Entries Free Company 4 hours ago 5 days ago
Mist Ward 7 Plot 37 Medium 16,000,000 21 Accepting Entries Free Company 4 hours ago 7 days ago
Shirogane Ward 18 Plot 13 Medium 17,000,000 16 Accepting Entries Individual 4 hours ago 9 days ago
The Lavender Beds Ward 20 Plot 30 Medium 19,000,000 11 Accepting Entries Individual 5 hours ago 10 days ago
The Lavender Beds Ward 23 Plot 60 Medium 19,000,000 10 Accepting Entries Individual 5 hours ago 4 days ago
Empyreum Ward 10 Plot 37 Medium 19,000,000 9 Accepting Entries Individual 4 hours ago 2 days ago
Empyreum Ward 14 Plot 21 Medium 20,000,000 9 Accepting Entries Individual 4 hours ago 5 days ago
The Goblet Ward 21 Plot 55 Medium 16,000,000 6 Accepting Entries Individual 4 hours ago 5 days ago
The Goblet Ward 24 Plot 42 Medium 16,000,000 4 Accepting Entries Individual 4 hours ago 3 days ago

[Impia]

Plot 11 in LB is the most popular along with 41 in subdiv, duh?

There are med goblets with literally 0 bids or close to it every cycle. Same with empy.

I don't deny that, as I stated it's correct that the best course of action right now is to move if you want a house. Keyword: right now. But it's not as good of an opportunity as it once was, and in the near future, it won't be the opportunity it is now. "Move to Dynamis" is not a permanent solution.

[AlexiaD]

I don't deny that, as I stated it's correct that the best course of action right now is to move if you want a house. Keyword: right now. But it's not as good of an opportunity as it once was, and in the near future, it won't be the opportunity it is now. "Move to Dynamis" is not a permanent solution.

It is to get a medium right now, yes, after DT it will probably still be one except for a short time after release.

[Themarvin]

They always tell you to transfer character to an empty server and then use data center travel but they forgot to mention that you cannot:
- use retainers
- gather legendary nodes
- check linkshells
- enter verminion tournaments
- enter triple triad tournaments
- play jumbo cackpot
- check your ingame mail
- play ranked crystalline conflict
- get invited to a wedding

So you either get stuck alone in an empty server or constant hopping back and forth just to use a retainer drives you insane. All for a house. Great idea guys

You then have to weight on what you want to do, and that is all that can be said about that in the end, there is no housing shortage and it would be too much to ask the developers to make more wards alone due to that, and if anything you would do the ones on the lesser populated servers a favor for being able to get large and medium easy, but it does not change the fact that you would have even more empty wards and then even more lost resources going into the game at absolute no point.

Change server, if it is the case and that having a house is a must, or make an alt and get a house on another server instead.

[Palin]

It is your choice but any choice will comes with consequence.
You are not going to a high pay job without invest in Education, there is no other way around.
If you don't want to invest in Education but want a high pay, that usually means criminal activity and consequence is the prison
Deal with it or leave it.

Yes that makes sense in real life but this is a video game. I come here to have fun, not to ponder if I should cripple myself across several subjects just for the sake of a better shot at a house I want.

If Square wants for people to move to empty servers there are better ways of doing it then make housing shitty for anyone in more populated servers.

You then have to weight on what you want to do, and that is all that can be said about that in the end, there is no housing shortage and it would be too much to ask the developers to make more wards alone due to that, and if anything you would do the ones on the lesser populated servers a favor for being able to get large and medium easy, but it does not change the fact that you would have even more empty wards and then even more lost resources going into the game at absolute no point.

That’s another reason why I consider wards a failed housing system. It either takes too much resources on less populated servers and entire wards worth of smalls sit empty, or too little resources and people in more popular places cannot get a house.

[LianaThorne]

Yes that makes sense in real life but this is a video game. I come here to have fun, not to ponder if I should cripple myself across several subjects just for the sake of a better shot at a house I want.

If Square wants for people to move to empty servers there are better ways of doing it then make housing shitty for anyone in more populated servers.



That’s another reason why I consider wards a failed housing system. It either takes too much resources on less populated servers and entire wards worth of smalls sit empty, or too little resources and people in more popular places cannot get a house.

I'm in the camp of all of this being intentional to keep subs up for consistent income on their end, which is why instanced housing is a pipe dream at this point unless it comes with auto-demo lol.

[Palin]

I'm in the camp of all of this being intentional to keep subs up for consistent income on their end, which is why instanced housing is a pipe dream at this point unless it comes with auto-demo lol.

They did stop the auto demo for two years across the entire game during covid and continue to do so whenever some disaster strikes somewhere. I guess it's safe to assume it doesn't make them that much of a difference in income.