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  1. #521
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    Nestama's Avatar
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn View Post
    Have you read the thread at all? There's multiple people who complained about the other cast members as well. They all sucked this last patch.
    Wuk is simply the main focus cuz she's the new kid on the block.
    That's what they were saying...? or was this a misquote?
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  2. #522
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    Lucky Tails
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    I like Wuk Lamat's English voice. Actually, I like all the English voices. Looking forward to hearing more in Dawntrail!
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    Three Ilm Knights, One Thousand Malm Road

  3. #523
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    I think the EN dub quality has taken a nosedive lately, so it might be an issue of direction rather than talent. When Jonathan Bailey, voice of G'raha, sounds like he's phoning it in after the stellar performances he gave us in Shadowbringers, you know something's wrong. Krile and the others sounded... off, too. The only ones that sounded more or less like always are Thancred and Urianger. Give her a chance to prove herself when she inevitably gets some tough moments in 7.0's msq. That's when you'll know for sure whether her performance this patch involved bad direction or bad talent.
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  4. #524
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    Vros Ta
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    Honestly the voice acting of Wuk Lamat was extremely off-putting. Maybe it will get better, but despite the various issues with the other voice actors nothing stopped me quite so dead in my tracks as this. It's just not good.
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  5. #525
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    /loveheart Wuk Lamat ♥

    She is awesome, and well she will get better in time, remember she is a foreing cat ♥
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  6. #526
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    Nhaama Kagon
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    Hm. I just heard Wuks english lines and was...confused? Worried? Or maybe just baffled by the lack of enthusiasm the VA seemed to put in her performance.

    You see, I normally play with the german dub, which is kinda...meh at best tbh. I heard Wuks german voice before the english one, and it was as 'okay' as I expected it to be. Nothing special, but not really bad either.

    Normally I like the english dub way more, the cast is just...better and more pleasant to listen to. But for this character specifically, I'm kinda shocked that the german dub seems a lot better this time. I don't know. I'm just used to the opposite xD

    I also listened to the japanese VA (the best version in my opinion) and it was amazing. Wuks german VA clearly went the same direction as the japanese one, making her sound so excited and like a happy new adventurer. While the english delivery just seemed kinda...bland at best and unprofessional at worst.

    In my opinion they could have gotten someone with a bit more experience for a role like this. But well, I doubt they'll replace her. Still, she didn't do a very good job. :/
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  7. #527
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonoki View Post
    Lmfao
    My posts are getting deleted.
    Considering how nasty the forums can get without mods ever lifting a finger, I'd say it says more about things you said than it does about mod team's bias.
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  8. #528
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  11. #529
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    Lilith Rosier
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    Good lordy.. playing through that scene with Wuk Lamat was a roller coaster of a "What.. is going wrong here..?" I legit couldn't figure out what they were going for with her since it kept changing all the time. There was some of cringe, jokes fell completely flat, the... accent? All in all.. her delivery really started to annoy me more and more.

    Until the friend I was playing with showed me the Japanese version, and suddenly it just clicked. And I realized they were 2 completely different characters.

    And even after listening to JP, DE and FR. All of them seemed to know the character they were playing, with varying levels of conviction, sure. But even the German one actually did a better job on the lines that made me seriously giggle like a child. (-"So is anyone still hungry...?")
    It baffles me how the NA actor is just so... far off point.

    I wanted to look and see if there was anything on reddit, but it seems any and all criticism is getting deleted there. Even people suggesting these forums exist aren't allowed to point out that there are more people voicing some, as I see it, mostly legit criticism from their own experience.

    Now for those of you who like the voice, that's great. Life's always better if you can enjoy more stuff in it. Far be it from me to tell you what to like or not. Tastes differ after all, and I consider that a good thing.

    However to see people try and shut down conversation and discussion about legitimate criticism by implying we're transphobic?
    You can join the transphobes for all I care, and get out of the discussion if you don't know how to hold one with people who's opinions differ from yours.

    Because I legit didn't know the actor was trans until today when my friend told me. And neither does that matter to me, because this is a discussion about an artisan craft; Voice acting. One in which I've worked myself back on Newgrounds. We don't see the person's face, we don't care about the person's body, we care only about the voice Acting they delivered. And the Acting, was just, simply put, bad.


    Edit:
    I've lived through Before Meteor, ARR, HW, SB, ShB, EW... is it the worst I've heard? No. But most characters at least seemed to know what kind of character they were acting out, this one feels like an injustice. Does that mean they can not improve? No, everyone can get proficient at a skill with practice. However I do not think a main character in a big beloved main entry to the Final Fantasy series is necessarily a place for practice. XIV has come a long way from it's humble roots where they had to re-make so much of the game, to now start dipping into a cheap hiree for a main character.
    And all the people that give the most childish response: "Oh I guess we should fire Krile and G'raha's VA's too for their lackluster performance" are arguing in such bad faith, it is hardly even fathomable. I absolutely adore Krile and G'raha both. They might've been a bit off in this last patch, but they've more than proven their worth.

    People have something to say because this is a new character. It happens all the time. Who they are in real life has very little to do with it.
    Welcome to the internet.
    Have your complimentary cookie and yellow pillow.
    (16)
    Last edited by LilithRose; 02-19-2024 at 10:26 AM.

  12. #530
    Player DrForester's Avatar
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    Miyara Dantes
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilithRose View Post
    Good lordy.. playing through that scene with Wuk Lamat was a roller coaster of a "What.. is going wrong here..?" I legit couldn't figure out what they were going for with her since it kept changing all the time. There was some of cringe, jokes fell completely flat, the... accent? All in all.. her delivery really started to annoy me more and more.

    Until the friend I was playing with showed me the Japanese version, and suddenly it just clicked. And I realized they were 2 completely different characters.

    And even after listening to JP, DE and FR. All of them seemed to know the character they were playing, with varying levels of conviction, sure. But even the German one actually did a better job on the lines that made me seriously giggle like a child. (-"So is anyone still hungry...?")
    It baffles me how the NA actor is just so... far off point.

    I wanted to look and see if there was anything on reddit, but it seems any and all criticism is getting deleted there. Even people suggesting these forums exist aren't allowed to point out that there are more people voicing some, as I see it, mostly legit criticism from their own experience.

    Now for those of you who like the voice, that's great. Life's always better if you can enjoy more stuff in it. Far be it from me to tell you what to like or not. Tastes differ after all, and I consider that a good thing.

    However to see people try and shut down conversation and discussion about legitimate criticism by implying we're transphobic?
    You can join the transphobes for all I care, and get out of the discussion if you don't know how to hold one with people who's opinions differ from yours.

    Because I legit didn't know the actor was trans until today when my friend told me. And neither does that matter to me, because this is a discussion about an artisan craft; Voice acting. One in which I've worked myself back on Newgrounds. We don't see the person's face, we don't care about the person's body, we care only about the voice Acting they delivered. And the Acting, was just, simply put, bad.


    Edit:
    I've lived through Before Meteor, ARR, HW, SB, ShB, EW... is it the worst I've heard? No. But most characters at least seemed to know what kind of character they were acting out, this one feels like an injustice. Does that mean they can not improve? No, everyone can get proficient at a skill with practice. However I do not think a main character in a big beloved main entry to the Final Fantasy series is necessarily a place for practice. XIV has come a long way from it's humble roots where they had to re-make so much of the game, to now start dipping into a cheap hiree for a main character.
    And all the people that give the most childish response: "Oh I guess we should fire Krile and G'raha's VA's too for their lackluster performance" are arguing in such bad faith, it is hardly even fathomable. I absolutely adore Krile and G'raha both. They might've been a bit off in this last patch, but they've more than proven their worth.

    People have something to say because this is a new character. It happens all the time. Who they are in real life has very little to do with it.
    Welcome to the internet.
    Have your complimentary cookie and yellow pillow.

    Was wondering when this thread would inevitably get bumped.

    Bumping the thread check list..

    Complaining about the voice. Check
    Dismissing the blatant transphobia. Check
    Dismissing criticism of other voice performances. Check
    Implying Sena isn't a professional actress. Check (also this is one of the most telling things because if this was really a problem you had, you'd be laying the blame at the casting director)


    Also noticing that "it's just legitimate criticism" is the new "it's about ethics in games journalism" has been a revelation.
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    Last edited by DrForester; 02-19-2024 at 11:01 AM.

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