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    Personally my headcanon is more or less that starting with SB/ShB as you stopped getting skills from quests, the WoL more or less started creating their own skills and spells rather than being taught new things by someone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    Personally my headcanon is more or less that starting with SB/ShB as you stopped getting skills from quests, the WoL more or less started creating their own skills and spells rather than being taught new things by someone else.
    This was the go to thought that a ton of people had come SHB, but it doesn't really track very well when you think about it for things like the MCH rework.

    The WoL is not an innovator. That's why characters like Cid, Nero, and others are important. Machinist is all about new technology, and it's a class that was created by Stephanivien in Ishgard. His original questlines all revolve around his innovations, and they have diegetic explanations as to how they function. But with the SHB rework, MCH gains completely new things like Drill as early as the 50s. Which had original skills that have been replaced.

    Another common line of thought people used to espouse was stuff like, "Oh the WoL gained all these light aspected attacks because of the overwhelming amount of Light they were trying to hold in SHB." Of course, that only really tracks for White Mage. And it still kinda stomps the Black Shroud Padjali origin of the job in the nuts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    This was the go to thought that a ton of people had come SHB, but it doesn't really track very well when you think about it for things like the MCH rework.

    The WoL is not an innovator. That's why characters like Cid, Nero, and others are important. Machinist is all about new technology, and it's a class that was created by Stephanivien in Ishgard. His original questlines all revolve around his innovations, and they have diegetic explanations as to how they function. But with the SHB rework, MCH gains completely new things like Drill as early as the 50s. Which had original skills that have been replaced.

    Another common line of thought people used to espouse was stuff like, "Oh the WoL gained all these light aspected attacks because of the overwhelming amount of Light they were trying to hold in SHB." Of course, that only really tracks for White Mage. And it still kinda stomps the Black Shroud Padjali origin of the job in the nuts.
    MCH is most definitely the big outlier in it, as it would have to imply that the WoL was the one who made the Bioblaster, Air Anchor, Automaton Queen and Chainsaw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    Personally my headcanon is more or less that starting with SB/ShB as you stopped getting skills from quests, the WoL more or less started creating their own skills and spells rather than being taught new things by someone else.
    I like that approach, but I'd still like an explanation on what exactly these techniques are.
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    Ulala Ula
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    Personally my headcanon is more or less that starting with SB/ShB as you stopped getting skills from quests, the WoL more or less started creating their own skills and spells rather than being taught new things by someone else.
    Yeah i went with that too, it makes sense and you can also assume the more were "tuned" with the job, the more use we make out of the Jobcrystals information...

    Yet i miss the days when there was some lore behind stuff, it feels so empty now and contributes on making all jobs just feel the same.
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