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  1. #41
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    Absurdity's Avatar
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hycinthus View Post
    What does floaty mean?
    Lacking in feedback. You're basically just waving your weapon around and watch damage numbers pop up.
    It's why more action focused games include things like enemies flinching, animation locks, stagger mechanics, etc, to convey impact, so you don't feel like you're just making your attacks vaguely collide with a hitbox while shuffling around.

    Guild Wars 2 has exactly that problem, because everyone is so mobile in that game and attacks have little to no commitment it really feels like you're just waving a pool noodle around. But it's not exclusive to GW2, a lot of tab target mmos suffer from it.
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  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaCa View Post
    It will take a massive bleeding of subs before they start considering all the feedback that has been given to them here since Endwalker released.
    By the time this happens SE will be ready to just pull the plug and cut funding to XIV and move on to another title.
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    Aluca Angelus
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    Diabolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    By the time this happens SE will be ready to just pull the plug and cut funding to XIV and move on to another title.
    And maybe they can stop investing into crap that nobody asked for, like Foamstars.
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  4. #44
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    I’m probably huffing the mad copium but I actually have more hope than for DT than I did for EW at the equivalent time in ShB

    Square seems to take about 2 expansions to get around to realising that what they are currently doing isn’t working, the ShB changes were mostly extremely delayed reactions to HW even though most people actually liked the balance they struck with SB, now we have been in the ShB design for 2 expansions and people are tired, at the end of ShB most people were thinking along the lines of “give ShB combat a chance to mature and see what’s it like (especially for jobs like MCH and the healers that got ~~nuked~~ changed in ShB)”, now everyone has seen what the “maturation of ShB combat is and it’s a functional dead end so the feedback is getting progressively more negative (on the JP forums the feedback is mostly settling into the “I don’t love it but it’s not really Japanese culture to outright say I hate it so I’ll just try to ignore it”)

    If we are ever going to get another shakeup of the games combat at the level of 1.0->2.0 or 4.0->5.0 or even one that was noticeable enough to change most jobs like 3.0->4.0 it’s going to happen in DT
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  5. #45
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    Malia Tri'el
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    They revealed a lot during the Fanfests, but they're still not showing all their cards. I'm looking forward to what wasn't announced.
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heroman3003 View Post
    Why would they do back to old design when Shadow ringers and Endwalker proved to be more successful and popular than anything that came before? The formula was established in ShB and brought unprecedented success. It was repeated in EW and success repeated. Don't expect change to something that works.
    Because the game has been constantly growing through all those expansions, ShB just continued the trend and EW reversed it, if anything that’s proof that the post ShB strategy isn’t working
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  7. #47
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heroman3003 View Post
    Why would they do back to old design when Shadow ringers and Endwalker proved to be more successful and popular than anything that came before? The formula was established in ShB and brought unprecedented success. It was repeated in EW and success repeated. Don't expect change to something that works.
    It's incredibly funny that people try and attribute the success of ShB and EW to the massively simplified job design as if job design is the only thing that those expansions offered.

    Perhaps you should remember that ShB had a fantastic story that a lot of people highly rated and EW is the climax of 10 years of story build-up. That explains the success of the game more than the simplified job design.
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  8. #48
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    Inglis Eucus
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    If they do the only change, I can see them doing away with MP.
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    If they do the only change, I can see them doing away with MP.
    I would like to see this if only for the chance to see how the actual hell they would attempt to spin this as a positive change
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  10. #50
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    Alchemist Lv 100
    I have a feeling summoner will lose resurrection and also put red mage verraise on a cooldown.
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