Solution 9 - Unfounded Speculation!

[Cilia]

Wild speculation: since Dawntrail is supposed to be a new beginning, Solution Nine isn't going to have anything to do with the cosmic stuff from Shadowbringers / Endwalker.

[Kesey]

Again that doesnt say he wasnt from Amaurot its still a baseless assumption. Youre again assuming that no one but Venat has ever traveled if they were born in Amaurot. But we know that isnt true since Emet AND hythlodeaus travelled with the new Azem and was helping people. So your citation is NOT proof. Unless it says that the New Azem was born and lived outside of the city then all you have is a guess and not a fact.

Next you'll be telling me that Im best friends with the BackStreet Boys because we're from the same city (im not i have never met them and never want too)

BTW youre also forgetting that theyre keeping it vague on purpose so of course theyre not going to say fellow Amaurotine or anything like that nor would they even say younger ancient when its told from an ancients point of view.. If you read through the story again the term "ancient" isnt even used as a description of the people. So as I've stated before Azem being NOT born in Amaurot is not a fact at all it is just your assumption aka headcanon on it. He could have been born there or not but to say it is fact is false.

Also where have i been combatative im just a blunt person. I dont sugar coat anything when unless im trying not to cuss nor have i ever been combative with you iirc ive only responded to you twice. Once in my own thread and another where i said I didnt want Vaan in to be put in Ffxiv.



Is delving too far into an assumption when all that was said was


Nothing within that said sentence from the story alludes to it being fact that our past life wasnt born in Amaurot all it states as a fact is that she MET her chosen successor while traveling and found him/her "fascinating". It doesnt tell the where the why the how or any personal information on the character at all.

Also one last thing if you think im saying its alluding to our character's past life being born in Amaurot, im not due to the fact that we have no information as to who they really were or where they were from. And its been like that since Azem was first mentioned and theyve always have shied away from giving that type of information out.

If you want to speculate they aren't from amaurot that is fine but stating it as a fact isnt

Again, because you've seem to have lost the general gist of the first post, it was my speculation on Solution 9 and its link to Azem--because this is a speculation thread. I never presented the information as facts, but as my theory.

You're the aggressor who wants a citation and then calls it bogus, only to finish the thought that I'm free to speculate. Which is what I did in the first place. You can't have it both ways to just one up people in a forum. You just don't have respect for others. Hope you figure it out, but this conversation is done.

[Rannie]

Again, because you've seem to have lost the general gist of the first post, it was my speculation on Solution 9 and its link to Azem--because this is a speculation thread. I never presented the information as facts, but as my theory.

You're the aggressor who wants a citation and then calls it bogus, only to finish the thought that I'm free to speculate. Which is what I did in the first place. You can't have it both ways to just one up people in a forum. You just don't have respect for others. Hope you figure it out, but this conversation is done.

Excuse me calling a citation For you saying that as a fact that Azem wasnt born in Amaurot isnt being combatitive. What is being combatitive is to claim that any time ive responded to you its been in a combatative/hostile manner to call you out on things. Which by a post history search under advance with your name and mine shows that a before this thread I've only responded to you twice in the 5 years you've been posting.



You your self have responded to me more times than i to you in the past.



If you want to talk about being hostile you might want to check yourself first with this slander bs you're doing kid. You dont even have the decency to even say it was your bad for that or even say that you mistook me for SOMEONE Else who has done it to you.

The sentence reads it as fact btw not as speculation. You based your whole speculation on Solution 9 on another speculation and which your then proceeded to present it as a fact. That is how the sentence "Azem wasn't born in Amourot because they were discovered by Venat during her adventures outside of Amourot." reads. Your other specualtion or even speculating it as such is fine like i have stated before but that sentence isn't even presented as speculation. You again present it as a fact with IE the sentence is a statement itself of fact also it is a Cause and and Effect sentence not of speculation.

A speculatory sentence would have been:

"To add to this we have that Venat met her successor while traveling so that too could lend credance to azem being born there instead of Amaurot" or "We know that Venat met her successor while on her travels so that could also be shown as Azem being born there." but you went with a definitive and a why.

[Mayhemmer]

Wild speculation: since Dawntrail is supposed to be a new beginning, Solution Nine isn't going to have anything to do with the cosmic stuff from Shadowbringers / Endwalker.

I can only hope so. Well, sort of. I've got theories... At least no distant planet stuff, I'd hope, though.

[Iscah]

Wild speculation: since Dawntrail is supposed to be a new beginning, Solution Nine isn't going to have anything to do with the cosmic stuff from Shadowbringers / Endwalker.

I really hope so. I think it being a case of "this is what you can build when the area has a natural lightning aspect" would be a far more interesting case of playing within the setting than bringing in more extraterrestrial or Amaurotine aspects.

[Rannie]

I really hope so. I think it being a case of "this is what you can build when the area has a natural lightning aspect" would be a far more interesting case of playing within the setting than bringing in more extraterrestrial or Amaurotine aspects.

the only thing I hope is in the lightning area we don't have to dodge the strikes 200 times for an achievement... never got it in 10 don't even want to think about getting it here. lol

[Iscah]

the only thing I hope is in the lightning area we don't have to dodge the strikes 200 times for an achievement... never got it in 10 don't even want to think about getting it here. lol

It was one of the few relics I actually did manage to get. Certainly more viable than playing blitzball or having to grind forever to defeat dark aeons or whatever the other things were.

[Rannie]

It was one of the few relics I actually did manage to get. Certainly more viable than playing blitzball or having to grind forever to defeat dark aeons or whatever the other things were.

hey congrats on that one then =) I just didn't have the patience to do it back then

[kaynide]

Nothing really to add other than I hope it's less "OMG Aliens/Ancients" woo-woo, and more "This is what you get when you take a technological people like the Garleans and have them build a society centered on infinite Lighting/Electricity as opposed to magi-petrol"

I'd probably be fine with this being the evolution of surviving Allagans.

[Cassar]

Dawntrail is indeed a "new beginning" and yes, Solution 9 might have nothing to do with the Ancients.

Of course, they are still continuing the story of the game, so it could be related to other shards, maybe the Allagans, maybe the Garlean Empire, etc. To me it isn't very clear what exactly they're trying to move away from other than Hydaelyn and Zodiark. Are they trying to completely move away from the Ancients? We just got a reminder of Emet-Selch's speech in 6.55, so I don't know. We also had that tease at the end of the Pandemonium raids about Ultima, which is unrelated to Hydaelyn/Zodiark, so I think it could potentially be a plot thread in the future.

Even though I would like for them to move away from this a bit, I also don't want them to just create something completely out of nowhere because, to me, it would just feel like a missed opportunity to continue a past plot point, making it feel like they're forgotten. A loose thread, if you will.