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    Quote Originally Posted by Kesey View Post
    Citation: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes.../#sidestory_01

    The passage: Thus when Venat announced her decision to relinquish her office, it was that much more unexpected. A jest, surely. Yet she spoke in glowing terms of her chosen successor, a "fascinating man" she had met on her travels.

    "You would surrender the seat of Azem with so much left undone?" the archivist asked, still reeling at the implications.

    "A true traveler has no need of a title," Venat said. "And my replacement would benefit greatly from the opportunities granted by the appointment."

    “The journey is different for each who undertake it. Even following the same route, and visiting the same destinations, he will have different thoughts and experiences. He will make his own discoveries, and observe that which I failed to perceive."

    My reply: It's a faulty assumption to just assume Azem was born in Amourot because the text doesn't explicitly say so. The vagueness of being met during travels without saying something along the lines of a "fellow Amourotian" or a "younger ancient" proves they have to be from somewhere not Amourot. How often to do you go out of town, make new friends, then just assume they will live where you do? If you meet a romantic partner on vacation isn't it silly to just assume they will live near you?

    Furthermore, at this point in the narrative, there is no point in hiding the fact that the player's Azem is from Amourot. We are talking about plot points that are 2 expansions old. They are being vague because there is more to tell. The following lines about the player's Azem having their own thoughts, experiences and discoveries really lays out the road to who and what Azem are, more importantly, what was so important they didn't intervene in a civil war between their mentor and best friends.

    Lastly, this isn't the first time you've attacked my posts by claiming my evidence is bad or my logic is bad. I don't know what I ever did that upset you in the first place. But dig up our old posts from a few years ago and you'll see that you've had a problem with anything I say over and over. I'm here to speculate in a speculation thread. I'd prefer a discussion without the combative tone.
    Again that doesnt say he wasnt from Amaurot its still a baseless assumption. Youre again assuming that no one but Venat has ever traveled if they were born in Amaurot. But we know that isnt true since Emet AND hythlodeaus travelled with the new Azem and was helping people. So your citation is NOT proof. Unless it says that the New Azem was born and lived outside of the city then all you have is a guess and not a fact.

    Next you'll be telling me that Im best friends with the BackStreet Boys because we're from the same city (im not i have never met them and never want too)

    BTW youre also forgetting that theyre keeping it vague on purpose so of course theyre not going to say fellow Amaurotine or anything like that nor would they even say younger ancient when its told from an ancients point of view.. If you read through the story again the term "ancient" isnt even used as a description of the people. So as I've stated before Azem being NOT born in Amaurot is not a fact at all it is just your assumption aka headcanon on it. He could have been born there or not but to say it is fact is false.

    Also where have i been combatative im just a blunt person. I dont sugar coat anything when unless im trying not to cuss nor have i ever been combative with you iirc ive only responded to you twice. Once in my own thread and another where i said I didnt want Vaan in to be put in Ffxiv.

    Azem. Azem wasn't born in Amourot because they were discovered by Venat during her adventures outside of Amourot.
    Is delving too far into an assumption when all that was said was

    jest, surely. Yet she spoke in glowing terms of her chosen successor, a "fascinating man" she had met on her travels.
    Nothing within that said sentence from the story alludes to it being fact that our past life wasnt born in Amaurot all it states as a fact is that she MET her chosen successor while traveling and found him/her "fascinating". It doesnt tell the where the why the how or any personal information on the character at all.

    Also one last thing if you think im saying its alluding to our character's past life being born in Amaurot, im not due to the fact that we have no information as to who they really were or where they were from. And its been like that since Azem was first mentioned and theyve always have shied away from giving that type of information out.

    If you want to speculate they aren't from amaurot that is fine but stating it as a fact isnt
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    Last edited by Rannie; 01-25-2024 at 11:22 PM. Reason: Cellphone typos...
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