Quote Originally Posted by Vallavia View Post
I suppose I may have a flawed recollection, but my understanding was that the Populares still managed to hold on to relevance prior to Maxima and the lot defecting to the Alliance. Was it that they were only allowed to exist to facilitate Elidizenos's gambit to further damage relations between Doma and the Empire?
They were purged some time after the Doma delegation before or during the time Alphinaud went back with Maxima, but that whole thing was a farce orchestrated by Varis and Elidibus anyway. Like I said, I'm not sure why Varis allowed the political movement to exist after the civil war. Maxima's parents were Populares and were "disappeared" an untold amount of time ago, but I don't know if that would be before or after the civil war. By the time Black Rose came around Varis stopped playing around and everyone died or defected in the end.


The Populares were the better of the two main political movements to our eyes, but to the Garleans they were the cause of two civil wars and arrived with the Ilsabard contingent. Though on the Optimates side you have Varis who attempted to kill everyone in the world (and succeeded in one timeline) and Zenos who purposefully broke the empire apart and invited the Telophoroi in to destroy everything and temper Garlemald. You would hope the Garleans would eventually realize that the Populares fought against the people who were controlled or managed by ancient angry ghosts who ended up enslaving them to build a creepy tower and forced families to kill each other at the end. Also it would be nice if they remember they were a republic with a senate for 700 years and nothing world-shattering terrible happened.