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    Vandso's Avatar
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    Pink Perfection
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 100

    Would you like a single target Flamethrower for Machinist?

    Imagine a Minigun. Deals 180 potency per turn and increases Heat Gauge by 5 per tick, totalling 1800 potency and 50 Heat Gauge in 10 seconds, which is more than your basic combo can possibly do, but not enough to ignore your tools. I don't know how Flamethrower works but this would snapshot party buffs. The drawback is that you can't move for 10 seconds, making the job significantly harder. Would you want this for Machinist?
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    I'd just want it to actually be DPS positive like...anywhere, mostly.

    I'm not sure that's even the case in AoE situations presently and it's felt like a weird artifact of the pre-ShB MCH days.
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Flamethrower has been really strange for a long time because it's seemed useless and like you are probably doing less damage with it, unless there's something I'm missing. It was advertised in one of the job actions trailers despite being useless. It doesn't seem to make sense.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

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    Saya Finwel
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    Omega
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Flamethrower ? You mean the machinist only emote ? :3
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    Ryvick's Avatar
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    Ryvick Donhuntstead
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    Exodus
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    Samurai Lv 100
    I would actually rather have an AoE energy builder. Nothing drops AoE dps like trying to weave in an energy builder with a single target attack on a group of enemies every what 20 seconds?.
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    Hanayumi's Avatar
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    Kara Dusksinger
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Syln View Post
    Flamethrower ? You mean the machinist only emote ? :3
    If anything id love it if flamethrower had a finisher proc exactly like Blu's Phantom Flurry, like a fire explosion or something, all the better if it gave heat guage.
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    Nia Niyah
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    Hyperion
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    Dancer Lv 100
    I'd like that but also want flamethrower to be worth using in the first place
    having channeled abilities is something i feel is missing from ff14's combat
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    Chadhadai Oronir
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    Balmung
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    Ninja Lv 83
    Flamethrower is so weird. It doesn't generate any gauge at all, so I feel bad ever using it even in aoe situations. if it generated heat gauge, that'd be nice. Or hell, maybe repurpose it and make it sort of like SAM's meditate, where you use it during moments where the enemy leaves the room to gain gauge, idk.
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    Willig Rowde
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    Hyperion
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    yah i'd rather they "fix" flamethrower before adding in another channeling ability

    i actually do use flamethrower right now in dungeons only, usually each pull immediately after a boss so I can just have a nice 15 sec "not pushing any buttons" hand rest after those encounters.

    but like others have said, it desperately needs to at least build heat gauge, with maybe a risk/reward for maintaining it the full 15 sec... like you get 5 heat every 3 ticks and if you hold it to completion you also get 20 battery. but if you're forced to move, or end it early you get nothing, or possibly only 10 battery
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  10. #10
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    Kara Dusksinger
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rowde View Post
    yah i'd rather they "fix" flamethrower before adding in another channeling ability

    i actually do use flamethrower right now in dungeons only, usually each pull immediately after a boss so I can just have a nice 15 sec "not pushing any buttons" hand rest after those encounters.

    but like others have said, it desperately needs to at least build heat gauge, with maybe a risk/reward for maintaining it the full 15 sec... like you get 5 heat every 3 ticks and if you hold it to completion you also get 20 battery. but if you're forced to move, or end it early you get nothing, or possibly only 10 battery
    Thats why a finisher works, so you can pop it early if you got to move. A simple way of going about it would be giving a amount of battery guage as long as you pop it, but on top of that a buff that increases each tick of flamethrower, then finisher expends it all for heat guage depending on how many stacks of the buff is used.
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