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    Player NekoMataMata's Avatar
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    Feline Good
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    Halicarnassus
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    Paladin Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    I definitely don't want content to require an FC.

    I already avoid airships, submarines and I avoided Diadem. I've never engaged with FCs to that degree. Finding the right one can be rough and it's easier just to meet different people all the time from across worlds and data centers, for me personally.
    Aren't you one of those people that frequently points out that this is a MMO, not a single player game? No one's saying that all the content in-game should require it, but there should at least be a little bit of content that does.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    The entire point is you shouldn't need an FC. They are just a bonus. Sometimes the buffs are useful (for example, if a new MGP reward is released and everyone is farming it). Sometimes the social interaction is nice. Sometimes being able to access an FC chest is useful. Sometimes being able to access their housing district is useful. They may run venues you want to participate in. You can teleport to the FC house and use Aetheric Mimicry instead of bothering random people.

    You can run game events (map parties, farms, raid runs etc), run venues, manage their discord, do most of the design work on their house or garden, handle applications, manage the buff cycle daily or be part of an FC static. The things I'm listing are roles people in my FC have that seem to make them feel important enough, so it is possible.
    I see nothing wrong with having some content that is specifically catered to FCs. After all, you don't need anything in this game. That's never an argument.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Sometimes the buffs are useful (for example, if a new MGP reward is released and everyone is farming it). Sometimes the social interaction is nice. Sometimes being able to access an FC chest is useful. Sometimes being able to access their housing district is useful. They may run venues you want to participate in. You can teleport to the FC house and use Aetheric Mimicry instead of bothering random people.

    You can run game events (map parties, farms, raid runs etc), run venues, manage their discord, do most of the design work on their house or garden, handle applications, manage the buff cycle daily or be part of an FC static. The things I'm listing are roles people in my FC have that seem to make them feel important enough, so it is possible.
    Most of those buffs offer nothing to me. I socialize with people mostly on discord. I manage my inventory/retainers nicely so I don't really need the FC chest, nor do I take charity. I have my own house that's literally right next to the MB. I don't really have any interests in venues. I don't see using Aetheric Mimicry on a stranger as bothering people.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    You can run game events (map parties, farms, raid runs etc), run venues, manage their discord, do most of the design work on their house or garden, handle applications, manage the buff cycle daily or be part of an FC static. The things I'm listing are roles people in my FC have that seem to make them feel important enough, so it is possible.
    I can run events for basically any community in XIV. Anyone can manage the discord. Housing design isn't even that difficult anymore. The majority of FCs I've been in let the rank after intros handle apps so people can let their friends in whenever. The buff cycle isn't exactly difficult to manage either. All of these things are rather unimportant. If you lose the person managing any of those it's a fairly easy replacement.

    Statics are a bit different, but let's not pretend most people don't have a list of discords they can spam when looking for +1 or +2 with specific roles.

    There is nothing unique within FCs. Most everyone within them is so easily replaceable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    So, you're basically saying that you want FC ONLY content? If you need a reward to be part of an FC then I have to wonder if they're really worth it.
    Right now they aren't.

    I don't want anything big, just something to actually give it meaning. People act like someone's asking for the entire game to be wrapped around it.
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    Last edited by NekoMataMata; 01-22-2024 at 07:18 AM.