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    Aiyakiu's Avatar
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    Aiya Sakura
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    What are some ideas for content that FCs could do together that could be implemented?

    I was thinking about how mid-sized group content is rather lacking. With almost anything, you're limited to making a full party (8 man) and it's largely the same instanced content as anything else - maps, trials etc.

    I'm trying to brainstorm more expansive content that groups, like FCs, could do together or work toward.

    One idea I had was "FC Neighborhoods," where the entire FC could work together to progress an instanced (like Island Sanctuary) mini-town, with customizable features. I imagine a combination of gameplay like IS (where the gathering/crafting is not limited to DoL/DoH jobs), but also like subs (where Dol/DoH is required). I would love content that, no matter what you want to play as, you can contribute in a meaningful way.
    Having a place like the theorized "neighborhood" would be amazing for group cohesion, RPers, etc.
    (And it doesn't have to be limited to FCs, if we are worried about repeating Old Diadem).

    I just really want more midcore, mid-sized group content. We don't really know what Cosmic Exploration is, so I'm hoping it scratches that itch. But I would love more options.

    What other ideas do you have?
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    Player Rekh's Avatar
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    Fresh Tree
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    Zalera
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    Would have to be open world content with bozja-like design or stuff like variant dungeon if the design was less about fighting bosses and more about creative design where with actual variance in rewards and gameplay systems.

    Like why couldn't the variant dungeon's enemies have RNG encounters or triggers like the weather triggers in Mt Rokon; but instead of changing fight mechanics I would change the boss that appears or if instead if a boss we have to win mahjong against NPCs. Square enix gotta open up gameplay consultant jobs; they wouldn't be stuck in cookie-cutter mode if they did. I eould shower them eith so many good ideas.
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Hamlet for FC . Dark Cloud neighborhood design mixed with Hamlet defense (1.0 content), and FFXI assault as well. So you would have the crafting and construction mixed with the constant battle content, up to even potentially optional PvP where FC would get to invade another FC Hamlet / defend against. The FFXI assault ( Aht Urghan) being like a beast tribe attacks you, and so you defend and then take it on the offensive to their stronghold as a dynamic FC raid mechanic.

    Take the reputation panel in FC and make it do something as you Dark Cloud up the space, getting certain nations and unique NPCs to fund, house, and build with you. Allow players to visit other FC hamlets so if your FC is missing something you can always get it from another. Reducing the feeling that if your FC is new that it's not worth joining.
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    Player EZGIL's Avatar
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    Jordan Lore
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    Lamia
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    Blacksmith Lv 100
    eh,

    Wow had Guild achievements and rewards.

    no idea if that could work here
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aiyakiu View Post
    I was thinking about how mid-sized group content is rather lacking. With almost anything, you're limited to making a full party (8 man) and it's largely the same instanced content as anything else - maps, trials etc.
    Well firstly it would help to specify the size you mean.

    We do have some large-scale things.
    • Eureka.
    • BA (Eureka raid).
    • Bozja.
    • CLL (in Bozja).
    • Delubrum Reginae.
    • Delubrum Reginae (Savage).
    • Zadnor.
    • Dalrida (in Zadnor).
    • Alliance Raids (15 currently, you can do them Minimum Item Level for fun as an FC).
    • Hunt trains.
    • Spawning and fighting S ranks.
    • FATE farming for bicolor gemstones.
    • Doing special boss FATEs such as Odin, Ixion, Archaeotania, Formidable, Chi and Daivadipa.
    • Airships and submarines are meant to be something the FC does together but it kinda just ends up as something the FC leader does.
    • The Firmament (was more fun when it was current because now they are just celebration events).
    • Build a house and garden together (this is common).
    • Run venues and RP events at this house (this is also common).
    One idea I had was "FC Neighborhoods," where the entire FC could work together to progress an instanced (like Island Sanctuary)
    The Island Sanctuary-like content in the next expansion will be social, meaning you can do it with others, so most likely your entire FC can participate together similar to The Firmament. The theme will be Cosmic Exploration.

    We will also get another Field Operation like Eureka or Bozja. All these things will be in patches though, so don't expect them immediately at 7.0 release. Expect things like this in 2025, a whole year from now minimum.
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    Player NekoMataMata's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Well firstly it would help to specify the size you mean.

    We do have some large-scale things.
    • Eureka.
    • BA (Eureka raid).
    • Bozja.
    • CLL (in Bozja).
    • Delubrum Reginae.
    • Delubrum Reginae (Savage).
    • Zadnor.
    • Dalrida (in Zadnor).
    • Alliance Raids (15 currently, you can do them Minimum Item Level for fun as an FC).
    • Hunt trains.
    • Spawning and fighting S ranks.
    • FATE farming for bicolor gemstones.
    • Doing special boss FATEs such as Odin, Ixion, Archaeotania, Formidable, Chi and Daivadipa.
    • Airships and submarines are meant to be something the FC does together but it kinda just ends up as something the FC leader does.
    • The Firmament (was more fun when it was current because now they are just celebration events).
    • Build a house and garden together (this is common).
    • Run venues and RP events at this house (this is also common).
    The Island Sanctuary-like content in the next expansion will be social, meaning you can do it with others, so most likely your entire FC can participate together similar to The Firmament. The theme will be Cosmic Exploration.

    We will also get another Field Operation like Eureka or Bozja. All these things will be in patches though, so don't expect them immediately at 7.0 release. Expect things like this in 2025, a whole year from now minimum.
    I mean we have lots of large scale content, but there's no specific content towards FCs.

    I know some players will likely talk about enjoying the freedom, but for players like myself it means we have no real need of FCs. I don't need the buffs and as a Dynamis player I spend more time on Aether regardless, but I genuinely have no motivation to participate in a FC.

    And realistically, why should I feel this way? There's no meaningful way to contribute to a FC where you can make yourself valued or necessary. They're purely social circles that invite more drama than not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    I know some players will likely talk about enjoying the freedom, but for players like myself it means we have no real need of FCs. I don't need the buffs and as a Dynamis player I spend more time on Aether regardless, but I genuinely have no motivation to participate in a FC.
    I pretty much only care for the food extension buff these days and GCs/PVP vendor offers a superior boost anyway: as long as the best FC boost but you can apply it when travelling to other DCs.

    I really don’t see the need for FC specific content which usually advantages bigger FCs. I play with people from various FCs and have no interest in being part of a big FC. Atm it’s just me and a few RL friends and we play the game very differently.
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    Player NekoMataMata's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toutatis View Post
    I pretty much only care for the food extension buff these days and GCs/PVP vendor offers a superior boost anyway: as long as the best FC boost but you can apply it when travelling to other DCs.

    I really don’t see the need for FC specific content which usually advantages bigger FCs. I play with people from various FCs and have no interest in being part of a big FC. Atm it’s just me and a few RL friends and we play the game very differently.
    I mean it advantages bigger FCs because they can throw you away like you're nothing at a second notice. This is an incentive for you to create a smaller FC, form actual bonds with people who actually care about you and will think twice about giving up on you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    I mean we have lots of large scale content, but there's no specific content towards FCs.

    I know some players will likely talk about enjoying the freedom, but for players like myself it means we have no real need of FCs. I don't need the buffs and as a Dynamis player I spend more time on Aether regardless, but I genuinely have no motivation to participate in a FC.

    And realistically, why should I feel this way? There's no meaningful way to contribute to a FC where you can make yourself valued or necessary. They're purely social circles that invite more drama than not.
    So, you're basically saying that you want FC ONLY content? If you need a reward to be part of an FC then I have to wonder if they're really worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    I mean we have lots of large scale content, but there's no specific content towards FCs.
    I definitely don't want content to require an FC.

    I already avoid airships, submarines and I avoided Diadem. I've never engaged with FCs to that degree. Finding the right one can be rough and it's easier just to meet different people all the time from across worlds and data centers, for me personally.

    Content that can be pugged but can also be done by an FC seems like a fair balance and what I listed can be. But it is true there could be more large-scale content in the form of Eureka, Bozja and its raids so fortunately that is going to resume.

    I know some players will likely talk about enjoying the freedom, but for players like myself it means we have no real need of FCs.
    The entire point is you shouldn't need an FC. They are just a bonus. Sometimes the buffs are useful (for example, if a new MGP reward is released and everyone is farming it). Sometimes the social interaction is nice. Sometimes being able to access an FC chest is useful. Sometimes being able to access their housing district is useful. They may run venues you want to participate in. You can teleport to the FC house and use Aetheric Mimicry instead of bothering random people.

    There's no meaningful way to contribute to a FC where you can make yourself valued or necessary.
    You can run game events (map parties, farms, raid runs etc), run venues, manage their discord, do most of the design work on their house or garden, handle applications, manage the buff cycle daily or be part of an FC static. The things I'm listing are roles people in my FC have that seem to make them feel important enough, so it is possible.
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