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  1. #191
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsolen View Post
    No, that is exactly the problem, but you have you and yours plus the transphobes themselves blocking others from speaking out.

    Go fight your trash political battles on Twitter. This is a forum for a video game.
    Then talk about her performance. Unfortunately, you all keep pointing towards her gender identity as an issue, which it is not.

    I would take a break from this thread, collect your thoughts, and then return when you can properly lay them out without somehow making it about gender identity. It's not relevant.

    I look forward to seeing any actual criticisms.
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  2. #192
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
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    Do you think arguments like this lines up and speaks for every or even most progressive people? it mainly speaks for a small amount of people, No one needs to date anyone for whatever reason, seriously being progressive doesn't mean you have to agree with stuff like this, if you realised that many would denounce this sort of behaviour in "The community".

    I don't even think trans women and trans men want to be with someone who wouldn't like them back anyway lol. You can be progressive and not agree with every progressive lol.
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  3. #193
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    You guys put up with Alphinaud and Urianger for starters?

    I mean come on?

    Wuk Lamat is great and different, also keep in mind she is from another part of the world in FFXIV... it would be terrible if had some kind of British Accent or American or the likes...

    Give it some time to let it actually sink in, before you complain, it is more like that people want and like to be racist at first sight or being judgemental to the extremes, which is what we need less of on Planet Earth, just look around a bit with horrible things going on in general as of current.
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  4. #194
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rithy255 View Post
    Do you think arguments like this lines up and speaks for every or even most progressive people? it mainly speaks for a small amount of people, No one needs to date anyone for whatever reason, seriously being progressive doesn't mean you have to agree with stuff like this, if you realised that many would denounce this sort of behaviour in "The community".

    I don't even think trans women and trans men want to be with someone who wouldn't like them back anyway lol. You can be progressive and not agree with every progressive lol.
    I never said it did speak for every progressive. I was sharing a story based on personal experience based on Stormy's personal experience. I wasn't intending on attacking "All progressives", I AM one lol.

    Was just musing

    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    You guys put up with Alphinaud and Urianger for starters?

    I mean come on?

    Wuk Lamat is great and different, also keep in mind she is from another part of the world in FFXIV... it would be terrible if had some kind of British Accent or American or the likes...

    Give it some time to let it actually sink in, before you complain, it is more like that people want and like to be racist at first sight or being judgemental to the extremes, which is what we need less of on Planet Earth, just look around a bit with horrible things going on in general as of current.
    I love Urianger lol. ARR Alphinaud, yea, that was pretty bad haha. Weirdly enough, probably my favorite voice actor, or at least voice moment was when Lyna was at her breaking point. Incredible!
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    Last edited by Boblawblah; 01-20-2024 at 11:03 AM.

  5. #195
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    I never said it did speak for every progressive. I was sharing a story based on personal experience based on Stormy's personal experience. I wasn't intending on attacking "All progressives", I AM one lol.

    Was just musing
    fair enough sorry, don't mean to take you out of context or anything, just assumed that due to the person in the replies, distancing themselves from that community (who was generalising, these communities).
    I actually do think it reflects on a lot of how people view others being progressive, that you agree with everything in the community mb though.
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  6. #196
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rithy255 View Post
    fair enough sorry, don't mean to take you out of context or anything, just assumed that due to the person distancing themselves from that community (who was generalising, these communities).
    I actually do think it reflects on a lot of how people view others being progressive, that you agree with everything in the community mb though.
    No apology needed , it's hard for me to fault someone who just wants a group of people to be treated well.
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  7. #197
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    Quote Originally Posted by Embran View Post
    Then talk about her performance. Unfortunately, you all keep pointing towards her gender identity as an issue, which it is not.

    I would take a break from this thread, collect your thoughts, and then return when you can properly lay them out without somehow making it about gender identity. It's not relevant.

    I look forward to seeing any actual criticisms.
    It was pointed out in numerous threads.
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  8. #198
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    Percibel Theren
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    I honestly don't find the voice acting that horrible? It's not top notch quality, but it's passable. Her personality will definitely annoy the hell out of me because I just don't like this type of peppy, upbeat character. As for her design, that's unfortunately what Hrothgals are like. They're furry Femroes with uncanny valley nightmares for faces.
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  9. #199
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    She is guilt for being....too cute
    Punishment: daily post about her in the best forum of the internet

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    hope is the first step on the road to disappointment

  10. #200
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsolen View Post
    No one cares about minority or majority. People are people. You figure it out eventually. Just vary your sources more.

    A person is a hypocrite for wanting to play a character that is not trans, while they are trans themselves, but push for non-trans people to be ousted from a job where they play a trans character.
    "No one cares" is not an argument. You're dismissed. Sena is not in any way a hypocrite because a. YES minority groups absolutely matter. You obviously have no clue what you are talking about. "Women" is not a small sub group that lacks representation. Trans women are. B. Trans women are women. In the same way Gaia apples are a type of apple. Learn it fast, quick, and don't quote me again. You clearly lack the capability to understand basic concepts. If a recipe calls for Gaia apples, you can't use "apple". If a recipe calls for "apple," you can use Gaia apples.

    "People are people" lmao. Yes let's go back through history and just tell everyone that. Read a book or something, wow.

    Why don't we just head over to Israel right now, or travel back in time to WWII. The Civil War. Hiroshima. "Don't worry guys, people are people!".

    I also forgot to mention Sena did not call for anyone to be ousted. In fact she dissented from her peers by asking for the VA to voluntarily step down in a sign of solidarity and they declined. This is why your post is so incredibly dangerous-- not only do you not acknowledge the existence of minority groups but you also didn't actually read the tweets and made up your own version colored by bigotry...which btw, your targeting of a trans person is one of the exact reasons they're a protected minority lmaoo.
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    Last edited by Turtledeluxe; 01-20-2024 at 01:25 PM.

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