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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    It's not my opinion, it just isn't equivalent. Men and women are not minority groups. Black men are, trans women are, etc. So representation for them in all kinds of acting is important. SE also does this all the time...in XIV and other titles. The infamous Forspoken, Barrett in VIIR, Sazh in XIII. It just makes sense. Why would you cast a minority group any other way as long as it's within your power?
    No one cares about minority or majority. People are people. You figure it out eventually. Just vary your sources more.

    A person is a hypocrite for wanting to play a character that is not trans, while they are trans themselves, but push for non-trans people to be ousted from a job where they play a trans character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsolen View Post
    No one cares about minority or majority. People are people. You figure it out eventually. Just vary your sources more.

    A person is a hypocrite for wanting to play a character that is not trans, while they are trans themselves, but push for non-trans people to be ousted from a job where they play a trans character.
    "No one cares" is not an argument. You're dismissed. Sena is not in any way a hypocrite because a. YES minority groups absolutely matter. You obviously have no clue what you are talking about. "Women" is not a small sub group that lacks representation. Trans women are. B. Trans women are women. In the same way Gaia apples are a type of apple. Learn it fast, quick, and don't quote me again. You clearly lack the capability to understand basic concepts. If a recipe calls for Gaia apples, you can't use "apple". If a recipe calls for "apple," you can use Gaia apples.

    "People are people" lmao. Yes let's go back through history and just tell everyone that. Read a book or something, wow.

    Why don't we just head over to Israel right now, or travel back in time to WWII. The Civil War. Hiroshima. "Don't worry guys, people are people!".

    I also forgot to mention Sena did not call for anyone to be ousted. In fact she dissented from her peers by asking for the VA to voluntarily step down in a sign of solidarity and they declined. This is why your post is so incredibly dangerous-- not only do you not acknowledge the existence of minority groups but you also didn't actually read the tweets and made up your own version colored by bigotry...which btw, your targeting of a trans person is one of the exact reasons they're a protected minority lmaoo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    "No one cares" is not an argument. You're dismissed. Sena is not in any way a hypocrite because a. YES minority groups absolutely matter. You obviously have no clue what you are talking about. "Women" is not a small sub group that lacks representation. Trans women are. B. Trans women are women. In the same way Gaia apples are a type of apple. Learn it fast, quick, and don't quote me again. You clearly lack the capability to understand basic concepts. If a recipe calls for Gaia apples, you can't use "apple". If a recipe calls for "apple," you can use Gaia apples.

    "People are people" lmao. Yes let's go back through history and just tell everyone that. Read a book or something, wow.

    Why don't we just head over to Israel right now, or travel back in time to WWII. The Civil War. Hiroshima. "Don't worry guys, people are people!".

    I also forgot to mention Sena did not call for anyone to be ousted. In fact she dissented from her peers by asking for the VA to voluntarily step down in a sign of solidarity and they declined. This is why your post is so incredibly dangerous-- not only do you not acknowledge the existence of minority groups but you also didn't actually read the tweets and made up your own version colored by bigotry...which btw, your targeting of a trans person is one of the exact reasons they're a protected minority lmaoo.
    You don't sound like an inclusive person. Others being exclusive in the past or present, doesn't mean you have the right to be exclusive to others.

    BTW, I am in a minority group, and many people in 'minority groups' don't like people like you.

    It's because you foster hate over love.

    I read the VA's post. She did want people ousted. Even telling people to step down is still horrible.

    Edit: You also are an example of why 'woke' is considered a bad term, but I will not give up on you as a person. You are redeemable. You do not have to keep going down this path.
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    Last edited by Zsolen; 01-21-2024 at 12:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KayRadley View Post
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    isnt usually people like you looking to blame someone else for your problem generally the ones that take your skewed view of "tolerance" too far.. you start putting everyone in categories and ousting the "lessers" from your circles and soon their jobs and homes, and lands... soon you start justifying your hate against theses people on the grounds that removing them will make your idealist society a better place... eventually its become so socially acceptable to hate these people soon you will start celebrating when they are attacked in public as some kind of win for your side... eventually it catches up to you and you and your wife are cornered in a bunker...
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    Last edited by Mostly_Raxus; 01-20-2024 at 07:41 PM.