[Feedback] Wuk Lamat's English Voice

[ZiraZ]

You're the one who keeps tagging every Wuk Lamat thread with transphobia, lol. Your posts count for the least amongst anyone here.

Actual criticism is fine. Agendas are not.

I prefer the -misia prefix thanks

[Embran]

I prefer the -misia prefix thanks

That's fine. I've already seen a handful of trasphobes get the hammer in the last day or two. You'll be unable to even contribute before too long.

[Rithy255]

Honestly, that's the thing with this forum. It is filled primarily with the noisiest pessimists and 'phobes in the fanbase, not even the FFXIV subreddit gets this bad.

It's little wonder the dev team ignores this place.

Being a "pessimist" about serval things in this game (mostly job design), I don't really want to be lumped with people complaining over one VA, which honestly I think she did a good job as the VA from my perspective. The Idea that this is a big "issue" seems a bit odd... People can have valid concerns and all, I sure love ff14 hence why I complain a lot about things that I want to see improved.

I don't think everyone who dislikes the voice is automatically trying to be disingenuous but it's very obvious theirs overlap with some of those people just outright being phobic here, it's pretty easy to realise that. It certainly reflects on a lot of people here who do post disingenuous "feedback" which is sadly common. Which effects people who actually want to talk about issues that could be improved about the game.

[VentVanitas]

That's fine. I've already seen a handful of trasphobes get the hammer in the last day or two. You'll be unable to even contribute before too long.

don't entertain them, just report them for blatantly masking off and move on

[Nestama]

lol, lmao‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎

I'm gonna assume you want me to focus on the link, yeah?

Right. It's wrong/unprofessional to demand someone be fired/replaced. If you thought I'd turn around and say "well that's different." Nah mate. I understand where Sena is coming from, but it's still unprofessional, even if it's for accurate representation.
Much like how it's wrong and entitled of Karious to demand Sena be fired for supposedly doing bad voice work for Wuk Lamat. That's something that should entirely be on the director/coach whatever.

[Nestama]

Because it is entitled and the blame is being unfairly thrown at someone who most likely wasn't given proper direction (which also seems to be missing for Krile and G'raha. You have to admit they sounded... off this patch). When one side is saying "fire her, her voice is bad!" and another side is saying "she did a good/fantastic job," you don't just invalidate one side and immediately fire someone willy nilly (workers rights and all that). You discuss on how to improve and what could be done better next time. If people were immediately fired because a customer was dissatisfied with the service given to them, then... well, we wouldn't really have games, fast food/restaurants in general, cleaners, nurses, doctors, drivers, pilots, retail workers, etc.

And like I said, Sena was being unprofessional as well. I get where she is coming from, but it's still wrong.

[Karious]

If I order a pizza and its made wrong, I'm going to order another pizza. The pizzeria shouldn't make me keep the incorrectly made dish and tell me I need to give it a chance. I don't know why this is any different.

[Thighland]

Because it is entitled and the blame is being unfairly thrown at someone who most likely wasn't given proper direction (which also seems to be missing for Krile and G'raha. You have to admit they sounded... off this patch). When one side is saying "fire her, her voice is bad!" and another side is saying "she did a good/fantastic job," you don't just invalidate one side and immediately fire someone willy nilly (workers rights and all that). You discuss on how to improve and what could be done better next time. If people were immediately fired because a customer was dissatisfied with the service given to them, then... well, we wouldn't really have games, fast food/restaurants in general, cleaners, nurses, doctors, drivers, pilots, etc.

And like I said, Sena was being unprofessional as well. I get where she is coming from, but it's still wrong.

Just ignore the people saying that she should get fired.
No sane person actually wants that.
I'm pretty sure it's against the forum rules as well.

[Nestama]

If I order a pizza and its made wrong, I'm going to order another pizza. The pizzeria shouldn't make me keep the incorrectly made dish and tell me I need to give it a chance. I don't know why this is any different.

That's when you call them, provide evidence that what you ordered was incorrect (usually a photo + receipt) and then get a refund (or get a new pizza sent your way). Also note that this is something that is only affecting you personally because you're using a pizzeria as an example and not something that affects thousands of people at the exact same time (patch day).

Mind you, I'm Australian. We have consumer laws where the customer has the right to demand a refund. Dunno about America.

[Embran]

If I order a pizza and its made wrong, I'm going to order another pizza. The pizzeria shouldn't make me keep the incorrectly made dish and tell me I need to give it a chance. I don't know why this is any different.

That's not how this analogy works.

For your analogy to work, you would have to call the store, ask to speak to the manager, and demand the person who made the pizza gets fired.

That is what you are doing. You are not asking for another pizza. Asking for another pizza would be asking for another line read.