[Feedback] Wuk Lamat's English Voice

[Nestama]

I also don't appreciate folks going out of their way to dismiss every criticism as being irrelevant. If a customer is unhappy, they have a right to voice their complaints.

I feel people would have been a lot less critical toward you if you hadn't suggested SE should fire/replace her (that comes off as very entitled). When I read that, that's when I immediately dismissed your opinion because that's just a really awful thing to demand.

Like, blame the director, not the actor. Arc Rise Fantasia is a good example of seemingly no direction whatsoever. Normally I'd use Chaos Wars as an example, but I think the story behind that is the English team just hired their family to voice the characters...

[Embran]

I feel people would have been a lot less critical toward you if you hadn't suggested SE should fire/replace her (that comes off as very entitled). When I read that, that's when I immediately dismissed your opinion because that's just a really awful thing to demand.

Like, blame the director, not the actor. Arc Rise Fantasia is a good example of seemingly no direction whatsoever. Normally I'd use Chaos Wars as an example, but I think the story behind that is the English team just hired their family to voice the characters...

Absolutely this, and this is the problem with all of these "criticism" threads -- it's not criticism, it's some outlandish demand that affects another person's livlihood. She hasn't even had a proper chance to prove herself.

At best, it's selfish. At worst, it's irresponsible.

I just don't know how people can be so entitled.

[Zsolen]

Absolutely this, and this is the problem with all of these "criticism" threads -- it's not criticism, it's some outlandish demand that affects another person's livlihood. She hasn't even had a proper chance to prove herself.

At best, it's selfish. At worst, it's irresponsible.

I just don't know how people can be so entitled.

That job would then go to someone else, such as someone with actual talent that currently does not have the role.

This actor is not entitled to the job, just as the ARR actors were not.

[Turtledeluxe]

Absolutely this, and this is the problem with all of these "criticism" threads -- it's not criticism, it's some outlandish demand that affects another person's livlihood. She hasn't even had a proper chance to prove herself.

At best, it's selfish. At worst, it's irresponsible.

I just don't know how people can be so entitled.

The fanbase seems to have the idea that screaming and threatening gets you what you want, when in actuality it's an open and reasonable discourse that tends to garner support and acceptance. Not a total surprise given devs of this game over praise the audience, plus the prevalence of cancel culture in general.

[CVXIV]

Can anyone change the tags? I'm new to the forums so I clicked on it and it seemed like I could but I didn't want to mess with it.
I did notice the change and it's a bit sad that people can sabotage threads by editing tags - at least that's what I assume what happened, given that I read a few people pointing them out as a sort of 'gotcha'.

I really do hate that the well for discussion about this topic has been poisoned, with any criticism being dismissed as being against the voice actor's identity, rather than the performance. Truth be told, I would not have known that about the VA if I had not read the forums or had been told about it otherwise, so when I say "something sounded off but I can't put my finger on why." It isn't a dig at the VA or anything, I just had trouble putting my thoughts into words because I don't have a lot of knowledge about the subject.

To try and elaborate further on my contribution:
One of the lines in particular I have is the threat to roast the bird on a spit, which I believe many would say is one of the weakest.
I understand that Wuk Lamat is meant to be a warrior woman, and I have seen that as a point to dismiss criticism as people not liking warrior women but I do; I'm a viera, after all.
However to me, I think the VA tries too hard to be boisterous. Some of the lines are delivered in a very loud manner, and it seemed almost as if it is overcompensating for something, but as for what I couldn't say. I will have to watch through the cutscenes again and see if my impression changes.

I do like the character of Wuk Lamat, and enjoyed the interactions she has had with the others, especially Erenville. Despite her boisterous behavior, it is very clear that she is timid deep down and has some entertaining moments which I found cute. One could even argue that this overcompensation is part of her character, to put up the 'tough guy' act to appear strong which is totally fine if people believe that, and honestly I could see it but that doesn't mean that to me the delivery felt off.

Which is why I am happy that people have brought up the voice director.
I had thought about mentioning it in my initial post, but I wasn't really sure what the position was called and didn't want to make anything up for the sake of argument. I knew that VAs are instructed on how to deliver lines, as least to my knowledge.

Am I asking for the VA behind Wuk Lamat to be fired? Of course not.
All I wanted was to add my voice and say, "Yeah, something sounded off to me too but I hope that when Dawntrail releases everything is better."
Which is what was my initial post was about. There have been a few hit or miss voices in the game, some I've probably blocked out, and for good reason, but I don't intend on letting it ruin my excitement and anticipation for Dawntrail.

Only time will tell what will happen.

[Embran]

That job would then go to someone else, such as someone with actual talent that currently does not have the role.

This actor is not entitled to the job, just as the ARR actors were not.

I immediately fell in love with Wuk Lamat, and a lot of that was due to her voice acting.

And considering how overhwlemingly positive her reception has been everywhere that ISN'T a handful of threads on the official forums, I'd say that's a widely shared sentiment.

Your opinion is still valid, but you must understand you're in the minority and so calls for a recasting come off as especially harsh and unwarranted.

[KayRadley]

I immediately fell in love with Wuk Lamat, and a lot of that was due to her voice acting.

And considering how overhwleming her reception has been everywhere that ISN'T a handful of threads on the official forums, I'd say that's a widely shared sentiment.

Your opinion is still valid, but you must understand you're in the minority and so calls for a recasting come off as especially harsh and unwarranted.

Honestly, that's the thing with this forum. It is filled primarily with the noisiest pessimists and 'phobes in the fanbase, not even the FFXIV subreddit gets this bad.

It's little wonder the dev team ignores this place.

[ZiraZ]

Absolutely this, and this is the problem with all of these "criticism" threads -- it's not criticism, it's some outlandish demand that affects another person's livlihood. She hasn't even had a proper chance to prove herself.

At best, it's selfish. At worst, it's irresponsible.

I just don't know how people can be so entitled.

I feel people would have been a lot less critical toward you if you hadn't suggested SE should fire/replace her (that comes off as very entitled). When I read that, that's when I immediately dismissed your opinion because that's just a really awful thing to demand.

lol, lmao‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎

It is.
But sure, we should only focus on the skill. All I can say is, it's bad. As people above already stated, is just someone trying to make their worst shot at a fake south american accent.
By the way, south americans don't really want representation, they only want a quality product, their money's worth. They already play this game for what it is, and that should be enough. Half assing representation for the sake of it begat this kind of subpar results in quality. I pray that XIV never gets spanish localization. If they start using gender neutral language, a low tier VA will be just a drop in a sea of cringe.

[Embran]

lol, lmao‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎

You're the one who keeps tagging every Wuk Lamat thread with transphobia, lol. Your posts count for the least amongst anyone here.

Actual criticism is fine. Agendas are not.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

You're the one who keeps tagging every Wuk Lamat thread with transphobia, lol. Your posts count for the least amongst anyone here.

Actual criticism is fine. Agendas are not.

Just look at their "reason for editing"