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    Quote Originally Posted by ZiraZ View Post
    lol, lmao‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎
    I'm gonna assume you want me to focus on the link, yeah?

    Right. It's wrong/unprofessional to demand someone be fired/replaced. If you thought I'd turn around and say "well that's different." Nah mate. I understand where Sena is coming from, but it's still unprofessional, even if it's for accurate representation.
    Much like how it's wrong and entitled of Karious to demand Sena be fired for supposedly doing bad voice work for Wuk Lamat. That's something that should entirely be on the director/coach whatever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    I'm gonna assume you want me to focus on the link, yeah?

    Right. It's wrong/unprofessional to demand someone be fired/replaced. If you thought I'd turn around and say "well that's different." Nah mate. I understand where Sena is coming from, but it's still unprofessional, even if it's for accurate representation.
    Much like how it's wrong and entitled of Karious to demand Sena be fired for supposedly doing bad voice work for Wuk Lamat. That's something that should entirely be on the director/coach whatever.
    I mean, you're kind of doing exactly that. You're sweeping it under the rug with a "It's wrong, BUT I understand it". You really are saying "well that's different".
    The VA you're defending is guilty of the exact same thing you're chastising others for, and not even from years ago, less than a year ago they made that statement and targeted other VAs to try to get them removed and recast.

    I personally just want a better voice and I don't care how it's done, but man, seeing that Sena, less than a year ago pointed out other VAs to their followers to call on them to be recast is extremely cringe, even more than people will defend that even today.

    and there's some more cringe in that thread of her calling out the VAs that they aren't allies and are potentially transphobic if they don't step down to let trans people be cast in their roles.
    Right here.
    This is people's livelihoods and just like it's wrong to call for Sena Bryer to be yanked off the cast immediately, especially for being trans, it is also wrong to call for experienced VAs to be pulled from their roles they have built, and be recast because of their gender identity.
    No "but", no "but I get where she's coming from", no "but I understand why she's doing it". It's wrong and this is extremely unprofessional and childish.
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    Last edited by VerdeLuck; 01-20-2024 at 01:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    I mean, you're kind of doing exactly that. You're sweeping it under the rug with a "It's wrong, BUT I understand it". You really are saying "well that's different".No "but", no "but I get where she's coming from", no "but I understand why she's doing it". It's wrong and this is extremely unprofessional and childish.
    That's you putting words in my mouth/assuming I'm saying "but that's different." I plainly said it is unprofessional and wrong, even after saying I understand why she said what she said. You could swap Sena's with Karious and get the exact same result: I understand why Karious said what they said, but it's still wrong.

    Edit: looking back at what I originally posted, I didn't even say "It's wrong, but I understand."
    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    I understand where Sena is coming from, but it's still unprofessional, even if it's for accurate representation.
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    Last edited by Nestama; 01-20-2024 at 08:26 AM.