I feel like i cant support Squex or cbu3 anymore

[Turtledeluxe]

This is just flat out false. Gemstone vendors were immediately available at the start of ShB and EW and so were the riding maps. They were rank 1 in ShB and Rank 2 in EW. Rank 2 is 10 fates. 10. Which is enough to get your fate challenge log entry done and get you the gemstones to buy the riding map.

Just a few examples pulled from the XIV wiki.





The only riding maps that were not available at the time of expansion release were the Stormblood area maps. Those were released at patch 4.4. But that's likely because they put work into making riding maps available for HW and ARR areas at launch of Stormblood. Which they were.



Should they have done that for the SB maps too? Yeah. But...I doubt that was some nefarious scheme to force people to buy the Fenrir.



I mean...yeah? But then again, this is seeming like a tall AF order these days.


A cosmetic mount and actual gambling functions are two VERY different things. The Fenrir is not mandatory to play the game. That's just a fact. Trying to equate it to gambling is just...kinda gross.



Careful. Don't break your back moving that goalpost.

This discussion is about paying a sub for players who have been with the game for a while. I should not need to disclose that you can do old content like trains and relics and I did mention high end (because the only long term new group content is really that). In other words my original post stands. For players like us, there's noting to do really do unless maybe you're progging high end content. Everything else you have likely tried or done on at least one job, possibly even most or all jobs, if you've played for at least one expansion.

Which is why I'm not subbed.

[StarRosie]

This discussion is about paying a sub for players who have been with the game for a while. For players like us, there's noting to do really

You know I've been playing this game for a long time...right? Been here since 3.1, been subbed the whole time since, playing consistently with a small break here and there. All jobs, crafters, and gathers to 90. (Save for BLU. Cause...been lazy on that.) and yet I still find stuff to do.

In other words my original post stands.

But again, please be careful moving that goalpost. It looks heavy.

Which is why I'm not subbed.

Good, take that break or put that money to better use elsewhere.

[Turtledeluxe]

You know I've been playing this game for a long time...right? Been here since 3.1, been subbed the whole time since, playing consistently with a small break here and there. All jobs, crafters, and gathers to 90. (Save for BLU. Cause...been lazy on that.) and yet I still find stuff to do.



But again, please be careful moving that goalpost. It looks heavy.



Good, take that break or put that money to better use elsewhere.

Well I have a suspicion sufficient people have unsubbed because the last few financial quarters have not been good for the MMO segment. In other words your beloved new players you like to invoke are either not progressing fast enough or not buying the game ultimately. There's just no other to explain the consistent revenue loss. So people are speaking with their wallet-- OP doing it is just another person to add to the list.

There are free games that deliver more consistent and higher quality content than XIV. Hopefully 7.0 will prove the team is aware of this and not taking the game for granted. I'm very pleased with the content rollout so far but I will not hold my breath as they have not proven they can deliver a sub merited experience with their current workload seemingly overwhelming them, which is my concern. If your caught up on all the content you enjoy the devs are responsible for making ongoing payments worth it. Right now that just isn't happening..and the patch cycle hasn't even ended. It remains to be seen if this 7.0 content will be up to standard or this "lite" version of content we have been getting.

[StarRosie]

Well I have a suspicion sufficient people have unsubbed because the last few financial quarters have not been good for the MMO segment. In other words your beloved new players you like to invoke are either not progressing fast enough or not buying the game ultimately. There's just no other to explain the consistent revenue loss. So people are speaking with their wallet-- OP doing it is just another person to add to the list.

Except that's still entirely speculation on your end. Unless you somehow have access to the hard numbers showing a drop in subs for XIV is the reason for those losses, then you are just speculating. Because FFXIV isn't their only MMO or thing contained under their MMO segment. You're just putting all those losses on XIV with no real proof. However, anything I say on those losses would also be speculation. Because looking at the financial reports, they don't specifically say either or. If people are speaking with their wallets, that's a good thing because it might get SE to wake up.

Also can you stop saying shit like this?

In other words your beloved new players you like to invoke

It's really fuckin' creepy. Among other things. But it's mostly just creepy.

My impression was they were releasing 2-star riding maps at the tail-end of an expansion. It felt like the ones at the end of Stormblood solidified this as a formula. Then they just stopped doing it in Shadowbringers, probably due to covid and how pointless they are due to flying. But they also didn't do it in Endwalker, so I have assumed they just forgot about them now.

Wait, I forget, did you get a mount speed increase without a map in SB areas? If so then the 4.4 maps were a second boost. My memory is a bit foggy on that and I can't just go check in game right now. Cause ya know...

[strawberrycake]

Except that's still entirely speculation on your end. Unless you somehow have access to the hard numbers showing a drop in subs for XIV is the reason for those losses, then you are just speculating. Because FFXIV isn't their only MMO or thing contained under their MMO segment. You're just putting all those losses on XIV with no real proof. However, anything I say on those losses would also be speculation. Because looking at the financial reports, they don't specifically say either or. If people are speaking with their wallets, that's a good thing because it might get SE to wake up.

Also can you stop saying shit like this?



It's really fuckin' creepy. Among other things. But it's mostly just creepy.

Nah people like you and so many others seem to care so much about new players but no one, including CBU3 cares enough to give them a solid foundation that actually teaches them the game. Then they whine and call every player who isn't babying them toxic. You treat new players like pawns to prove your point. People may not have hard numbers, but new players arent a hard statistic either.

[StarRosie]

Nah people like you and so many others seem to care so much about new players but no one, including CBU3 cares enough to give them a solid foundation that actually teaches them the game. Then they whine and call every player who isn't babying them toxic. You treat new players like pawns to prove your point. People may not have hard numbers, but new players arent a hard statistic either.

I...No. Just no. I only speak for myself, but I try to help where I can. I do wish they would put more effort into giving new players a better understanding of how the game works. Cause god they suck in that regard right now.

But I refuse to take the mudslinging of treating them like pawns and such. Have a good one.

[Jeeqbit]

Wait, I forget, did you get a mount speed increase without a map in SB areas? If so then the 4.4 maps were a second boost. My memory is a bit foggy on that and I can't just go check in game right now. Cause ya know...

Due to dropping support for PS3, they were able to increase mount speed everywhere to 1 star (this was retroactively applied to MSQ quests, except in Shadowbringers and Endwalker where this comes from bicolor gemstones). The 2 star speed increase in all areas came from doing hunts. The 2-star speed increase was made available at the tail-end of Stormblood and it was surprising that it stopped happening in Shadowbringers and Endwalker. We are still without the 2-star boost.

[StarRosie]

Due to dropping support for PS3, they were able to increase mount speed everywhere to 1 star (this was retroactively applied to MSQ quests, except in Shadowbringers and Endwalker where this comes from bicolor gemstones). The 2 star speed increase in all areas came from doing hunts. The 2-star speed increase was made available at the tail-end of Stormblood and it was surprising that it stopped happening in Shadowbringers and Endwalker. We are still without the 2-star boost.

Aaah, ok ok. That explains a lot of things then. I don't think we'll be seeing a second boost, either because under the hood we technically have the first or something or just...they decided one boost is enough since folks will just use flight. But thank you for the info, much appreciated.