whats up with the pictomancer hate

[Myrany]

Silly question but there it is.

IF I turn off other players effects can I still see things like the healing circles on the floor? I know I know I am the odd DPS that actually tries to position myself in the circle when the healer is nice enough to place one.

[Mayhemmer]

It’s not really a question of cutesy and vibrant… it’s about the effects not looking as high quality as the rest of the jobs. I’m fine with cutesy and vibrant (I play a Lala! lol), it’s the flat, opaque, chalky and cartoony effects. It’s magic paint, I want it to look like magic paint! It does in the trailer. Even in the job video, the parts where she’s swirling the paint around with the brush don’t look bad. But the other parts of what we’ve seen don’t have the same texture quality to them, don’t look like part of the same game, and like others have said, could pose a problem seeing battle tells and indicators.

That is fair. I do hope they revise the effects and not have this disconnect between what we see in the CG trailer and what we got in the job video. The gap is a bit extreme, so I think I get what people are saying. The idea is good, but it's a bit too much in that direction and loses something, I guess? I just hope the devs don't take the wrong kind of feedback and get the wrong ideas.

[Heroman3003]

Silly question but there it is.

IF I turn off other players effects can I still see things like the healing circles on the floor? I know I know I am the odd DPS that actually tries to position myself in the circle when the healer is nice enough to place one.

You see those if you set effects to Limited.

[LynxDubh]

The cutesy and vibrant themes have been in the game forever. They've just never been in combat in the player's hands. Is that where whatever this line people have made is crossed?

You've hit the nail on the head. The line separating the fantasy of your character and the fantasy of the world around them. A player character's job is more of a constant in one's playing experience than their changing surroundings. You might temporarily interact with things like loporrits, moogles, or other whimsical facets of the world. But, your character's job is static. So, if you've been waiting 7 years for the new caster, it's take it or leave it with Pictomancer. This is probably why it feels more intrusive than the other goofy elements of FFXIV.

[Myrany]

You see those if you set effects to Limited.

Excellent ty

[Shougun]

Silly question but there it is.

IF I turn off other players effects can I still see things like the healing circles on the floor? I know I know I am the odd DPS that actually tries to position myself in the circle when the healer is nice enough to place one.

Dodging the circles is what gives healers things to be excited about, don't you stand in those things!

[HeyMcFly]

It’s not really a question of cutesy and vibrant… it’s about the effects not looking as high quality as the rest of the jobs. I’m fine with cutesy and vibrant (I play a Lala! lol), it’s the flat, opaque, chalky and cartoony effects. It’s magic paint, I want it to look like magic paint! It does in the trailer. Even in the job video, the parts where she’s swirling the paint around with the brush don’t look bad. But the other parts of what we’ve seen don’t have the same texture quality to them, don’t look like part of the same game, and like others have said, could pose a problem seeing battle tells and indicators.

^ this 100%
Give us sparkly, glowy, magic paint (what we see Krile use)

[Myrany]

Dodging the circles is what gives healers things to be excited about, don't you stand in those things!

Given this character is a BLM we could start a new game. I drop my leylines and you intentionally place your healing circle somewhere other than where my leyline is. Then I can play the leyline twister game of dodging the bad, staying in the healing circle while trying to be in my own leylines all at once!

[MahthildisMMORPG]

That's probably cause:

A) Everyone WoW that was coming over to FFXIV was brand new at the time was behaving all googly eyed over it for reaction content.

eh, as a past WoW player, I think people were more excited about Reaper because it's like Demon Hunter, which is also why it's my second main, being I played DH. Wouldn't say it was farming reaction content, that's pretty disingenuous.

[MahthildisMMORPG]

I was excited for Pictomancer, I hope the mechanics work like Dancer, since it'll be an easy transition to me and finally give me a reason to play caster. However, my hype has been somewhat ruined because someone claimed claimed that YP mentioned that the class would have to prepare their spells, and will have long cast times for the preparation as a result. Kinda like casters in DnD.

The other casters in the game don't do it for me, so I was hoping PM would finally be my reason to run Caster.