We really should be able to glamour other jobs' sets

[Razraptre]

This should be allowed. This is such a non-issue. All other MMOs don't have this type of restriction at all, and it's fine.

It certainly does sound like a case of "it is how it is because this is how it's always been." Although WoW does have arguably worse restrictions in place, where transmog isn't just class dependent but is often only collectible if it drops while you play that class.

[SilverObi]

Appeal to tradition without logic.

I've always viewed the AF gear being locked as a concession to the devs, working with their constant line against it "job identity/you won't know what job someone is". Like sure we can see in the UI what job someone is. We can look at their weapon to see what they are. We can EXAMINE them to be very sure. But ok ok let's earmark a set of gear that is always job locked to avoid possible confusion.

But really it wasn't an issue in FFXI and it wouldn't be an issue here. So either they think we are that thick (sometimes they're right) or it's rightfully a lame deflection instead of just being frank and saying "No." but that's part of the culture there of course.

[NekoMataMata]

This really needs to happen sooner or later. It would slightly remove some pressure from SE having to add more glamour plates.

Part of the pressure is the fact that one single piece of specific gear can remove a glam from use for literally every other job but one. They'd be doing themselves and us such an immense favor.

[Khryseis_Astra]

This really needs to happen sooner or later. It would slightly remove some pressure from SE having to add more glamour plates.

Part of the pressure is the fact that one single piece of specific gear can remove a glam from use for literally every other job but one. They'd be doing themselves and us such an immense favor.

Definitely! I currently have a couple plates like this: basically the exact same glam, but I have to make it twice because caster and aiming can’t wear the same arm pieces. So while ultimately, I’d love to see one plate for each job (including DOH/DOL), this would free up at least a couple plates for me.

I’m fine with keeping the job-specific AF gear locked, because a lot of people seem to feel really strongly about that. But everything else should be up for grabs… just look at the Credendum set! Why does my caster only get to wear the very PLD-looking plate mail with a bit of fabric attached while Scouting gets fancy arm loops with a nice cape? No reason everyone can’t mix and match when it’s already going against the whole job-theme aesthetic anyways.

[ty_taurus]

I've always viewed the AF gear being locked as a concession to the devs, working with their constant line against it "job identity/you won't know what job someone is". Like sure we can see in the UI what job someone is. We can look at their weapon to see what they are. We can EXAMINE them to be very sure. But ok ok let's earmark a set of gear that is always job locked to avoid possible confusion.

But really it wasn't an issue in FFXI and it wouldn't be an issue here. So either they think we are that thick (sometimes they're right) or it's rightfully a lame deflection instead of just being frank and saying "No." but that's part of the culture there of course.

Except we have plenty of examples of gear that isn’t role locked that could very easily be confused for AF gear. The new Heavensturn set is indistinguishable from Samurai’s AF aesthetic. If you set it up against the three existing sets and the new DT set, and asked random people which was not samurai exclusive gear, you would never get a consistent answer, because people would just have to guess.

Quite literally the only difference between AF gear and other sets at this point is one has “Gucci” on the tag, and the others don’t.

[SilverObi]

Except we have plenty of examples of gear that isn’t role locked that could very easily be confused for AF gear. The new Heavensturn set is indistinguishable from Samurai’s AF aesthetic. If you set it up against the three existing sets and the new DT set, and asked random people which was not samurai exclusive gear, you would never get a consistent answer, because people would just have to guess.

Quite literally the only difference between AF gear and other sets at this point is one has “Gucci” on the tag, and the others don’t.

Yep, that's what I was driving at. I think people just throw out the bone of keeping AF exclusive to make it an easier idea for the devs to process, especially since we have precedent from XI. I wore my Cleric's Briault on my dnc there and no one was at a loss as to what job I was on. Mainly just wish they'd get over their weird thing about saying no and just say no instead of leaving us to twist in the wind.

[OgruMogru]

Yep, that's what I was driving at. I think people just throw out the bone of keeping AF exclusive to make it an easier idea for the devs to process, especially since we have precedent from XI. I wore my Cleric's Briault on my dnc there and no one was at a loss as to what job I was on. Mainly just wish they'd get over their weird thing about saying no and just say no instead of leaving us to twist in the wind.

It certainly helps focus the request on unlocking clothing and not weapons. Which I woulda thought would be obvious but I remember some years ago now someone asked Yoshi P in a Q and A and he interpreted the question as glamming weapons not clothes and the question was quickly dismissed. We have also since then got weapons [the scythes] for jobs you wouldn't expect to use those weapons so even then, Yoshi P's response isn't really applicable on the topic of weapon glam anymore, either.

[Tsiron]

Lots of people expressing a desire for less restrictive Glamour over on r/ffxiv the past day or so

[Palin]

It certainly helps focus the request on unlocking clothing and not weapons. Which I woulda thought would be obvious but I remember some years ago now someone asked Yoshi P in a Q and A and he interpreted the question as glamming weapons not clothes and the question was quickly dismissed. We have also since then got weapons [the scythes] for jobs you wouldn't expect to use those weapons so even then, Yoshi P's response isn't really applicable on the topic of weapon glam anymore, either.

It's really REALLY weird how only one question gotten over to yoshiP, he missinterpreted it and then there was radio silence about the subject untill this day. Usually if they have any reason to say no, they would acknowledge this. Unless the reason is something like "we cannot unlock glam to make all class mog station items sell better"

[Raikai]

I really love the concept of the Pictomancer and it's one of the oldschool FF jobs that I always wanted, but never thought it had the slightest chance to make in as a FFXIV job, at best being diluted with another job fantasy (e.g. Archer being diluted on Bard).

Now, in the wake of this job, I actually fear to struggle like RDM when it comes to find proper casting gear that matches the Pictomancer's fantasy.

Once more, another example of the benefits of unrestricted armor glamours. Pictomancer certainly would find interesting items with the aiming or scouting niches.