SCH new ability idea

[Eloah]

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What you are saying isn't inaccurate, but it doesn't change the fact that SCH loses access part of it's kit to gain a buff on only 3 skills. And in a perfect world, you could plan out using your skills methodically, but that is rarely the case. Lots of times the planned place for Dissipation, does not line up with Whispering Dawn or Fey Illumination. The skill is just clunky and feels counterintuitive to SCHs overall design. That is why most people want it reworked. SMN never had a move that removed the pet to gain more power; rework aside, why must SCH. The faerie should be more involved, not less.

[Supersnow845]

What you are saying isn't inaccurate, but it doesn't change the fact that SCH loses access part of it's kit to gain a buff on only 3 skills. And in a perfect world, you could plan out using your skills methodically, but that is rarely the case. Lots of times the planned place for Dissipation, does not line up with Whispering Dawn or Fey Illumination. The skill is just clunky and feels counterintuitive to SCHs overall design. That is why most people want it reworked. SMN never had a move that removed the pet to gain more power; rework aside, why must SCH. The faerie should be more involved, not less.

Exactly, you lose access to some skills to gain a meaningful buff to other skills, that is exactly how it should work, you shouldn’t get everything for free, that’s basically everything wrong with healers as they currently are

[Aravell]

What you are saying isn't inaccurate, but it doesn't change the fact that SCH loses access part of it's kit to gain a buff on only 3 skills. And in a perfect world, you could plan out using your skills methodically, but that is rarely the case. Lots of times the planned place for Dissipation, does not line up with Whispering Dawn or Fey Illumination. The skill is just clunky and feels counterintuitive to SCHs overall design. That is why most people want it reworked. SMN never had a move that removed the pet to gain more power; rework aside, why must SCH. The faerie should be more involved, not less.

Dissipation has been a part of SCH design since HW when it was introduced, it's kind of presumptious to claim that it's counterintuitive to SCH's design. SCH is meant to be a tactician, the supposed "clunk" and pre-planning requirement completely fits SCH's design.

[Eloah]

Dissipation has been a part of SCH design since HW when it was introduced, it's kind of presumptious to claim that it's counterintuitive to SCH's design. SCH is meant to be a tactician, the supposed "clunk" and pre-planning requirement completely fits SCH's design.

People hated it then too. And back then it was even worse as it didn't even resummoning the faerie. That only happened in ShB. The idea behind the skill isn't bad, the execution is just horrible. That's primarily what people want to change.

[rawker]

People hated it then too. And back then it was even worse as it didn't even resummoning the faerie. That only happened in ShB. The idea behind the skill isn't bad, the execution is just horrible. That's primarily what people want to change.

Because people back then lack the knowledge to put the ability to good use. Nowadays, this should no longer be an issue. Quite surprising how it is still being argued for rework.

[Eloah]

Because people back then lack the knowledge to put the ability to good use. Nowadays, this should no longer be an issue. Quite surprising how it is still being argued for rework.

That might have been true for non-SCH players, but anyone who played the job, knew what to do.

While I personally would like the skill reworked into something different, that's not the only thing that has to happen. SE just has an idea for the skill and it isn't working out. Kinda like with Monk's old One Ilm Punch skill. The devs tried to "keep" it, but the community kept insisting that the skill is useless. Until, finally, they removed it. SE has several choices, either allow the 20% to apply to SCH's oGCDs, lean into the DPS aspect of the skill, or rework the skill entirely. It's a similar situation to Excog when it first came out, but SE listened to the player feedback and made it work; otherwise it was just another Lustrate on a longer CD, that might not have even proc'd

[Nizzi]

I like how SCH heals and how it leverages its toolkit, and getting rid of the lockouts and choice just takes that away from me so people who have zero interest in how the job plays right now can play it like they play White Mage but this time they have a fairy
I would not have stuck with this game at all if SCH didn't exist, because all of the other healers have insanely boring 1 dimensional healing kits on top of having the most uninteresting DPS rotations imaginable
Why should I have to lose the thing I enjoy and spend a ton of time on so people who don't love it can just find something else to complain about

[Aravell]

I like how SCH heals and how it leverages its toolkit, and getting rid of the lockouts and choice just takes that away from me so people who have zero interest in how the job plays right now can play it like they play White Mage but this time they have a fairy
I would not have stuck with this game at all if SCH didn't exist, because all of the other healers have insanely boring 1 dimensional healing kits on top of having the most uninteresting DPS rotations imaginable
Why should I have to lose the thing I enjoy and spend a ton of time on so people who don't love it can just find something else to complain about

It's very weird that people who dislike SCH keep complaining about different aspects of SCH while talking about how good the other healers have it. I always wonder why they don't simply just go play the other healers they love so much instead of trying to change SCH and ruin it for those of us who enjoy the kit interactions of SCH.

[Supersnow845]

It's very weird that people who dislike SCH keep complaining about different aspects of SCH while talking about how good the other healers have it. I always wonder why they don't simply just go play the other healers they love so much instead of trying to change SCH and ruin it for those of us who enjoy the kit interactions of SCH.

I wish a class existed that was like SCH but wasn’t clunky

‘SGE exists’

I’ll ignore that

[rawker]

I wish a class existed that was like SCH but wasn’t clunky

‘SGE exists’

I’ll ignore that

I don't mind SCH being clunky. It adds to the charm.