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  1. #2601
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    WaxSw's Avatar
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    Waxillium Larede
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    Twintania
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    When was the last time any healer got a skill that felt like it was actively building off something else to give a coherent playstyle where you both enjoy pressing the new skill and also pressing older skills in order to get to said new skill (like how paradox makes the entire astral fire phase better or the spellblade combo made confitier better)
    Afflatus misery and to some extent Recitation come to my mind. They are two examples of skills that, due to interactions with the kit, help to recontextualize already existing tools and something the devs should lean much harder into. I'd rather have 6 heals and 3 skills that give those already existing 6 new ways to be used rather than 9 heals that have barely any mechanical implication other than being dps neutral or not at a base level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IttyBitty View Post
    Emnity management is a group responsibility, HP management is a group responsibility, Mitigation is a group responsibility ,DPS is a group responsibility
    Anybody saying "I only want to <x>" just tells me they are lazy and selfish.

  2. #2602
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    SieyaM's Avatar
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    Sieya Mizuno
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Being reported for insulting is well deserved. But suggested to watch a guide? Is that even an offense?
    Those would not be separate instances, they first insulted them, followed by telling them to go watch a guide. Then they would come here and complain about being reported just because they told someone to watch a guide.
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  3. #2603
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    Maltothoris's Avatar
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    Character
    Malto Thoris
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Gotta make a prediction of the job trailer for whm and it's going to be cure 2, lily usage, the new animation for the filler and the dot and 2 new actions.
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  4. #2604
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    Aravell's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    J'thaldi Rhid
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Maltothoris View Post
    Gotta make a prediction of the job trailer for whm and it's going to be cure 2, lily usage, the new animation for the filler and the dot and 2 new actions.
    I'll do you one better. Single target Misery.
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  5. #2605
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Maltothoris View Post
    Gotta make a prediction of the job trailer for whm and it's going to be cure 2, lily usage, the new animation for the filler and the dot and 2 new actions.
    Don't forget the 10 potency increase on Holy 4.
    (2)
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  6. #2606
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    ty_taurus's Avatar
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    Noah Orih
    World
    Faerie
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    Sage Lv 90
    I’m really just ready to see any real information on job details. It feels like pins and needles waiting to see what happens.
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  7. #2607
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    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    I’m really just ready to see any real information on job details. It feels like pins and needles waiting to see what happens.
    Unless we're getting an actual overhaul of how the jobs play like in ShB, I expect the media tour/live letter to go a lot like the EW one where they have 1-2 bullet points for the healers with fairly worthless info like "Healing responsiveness has been improved" or "New [Insert non WHM healer job here] action is a powerful shield" as they quickly rush through the slide to talk about what really matters for 15+ minutes: An ability being slightly altered on Black Mage and how excruitatingly painful the discussions and debates about it were. So I would imagine we're probably going to be waiting for very close to release to see if anything's actually changed.
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  8. #2608
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    They do really like to wait till it's too late to change anything before revealing anything, huh?
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  9. #2609
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    Unless we're getting an actual overhaul of how the jobs play like in ShB, I expect the media tour/live letter to go a lot like the EW one where they have 1-2 bullet points for the healers with fairly worthless info like "Healing responsiveness has been improved" or "New [Insert non WHM healer job here] action is a powerful shield" as they quickly rush through the slide to talk about what really matters for 15+ minutes: An ability being slightly altered on Black Mage and how excruitatingly painful the discussions and debates about it were. So I would imagine we're probably going to be waiting for very close to release to see if anything's actually changed.
    Hey guys don’t you want to hear the 25 minute presentation on how the extra 5 potency on xenoglossy 2 will make it so you can create 4,000 new lines that nobody will ever actually use
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  10. #2610
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    Aravell's Avatar
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Mateus
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    They do really like to wait till it's too late to change anything before revealing anything, huh?
    I assume they're still mad about all the negative feedback when they revealed Stormblood lilies early on. Maybe there wouldn't be so much negative feedback if they actually understand how players are playing the healer role and actually put some thought into the design.
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