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  1. #11
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    Merrigan Gilgard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyrj View Post
    I mean the person in charge of new races isn't handling mechanics, activities and reworking roles.
    True true, but in general the budget is calculated for the whole game. If we assign X number of people to graphics / aesthetic addition, they're rarely pure additions; rather, they're people we don't assign to other departments.
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    Miyara Dantes
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    Rest assured that new race or no, they will never, ever work on Viera and Hrothgar hats.
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  3. #13
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    Lorelai Oshidari
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    I'm against the idea of new races until some form of support can be given to Viera and Hroth to bring them up to par with everyone else. I'd rather have what we have than more half-baked races coming in that people will rightfully complain about having limitations.

    Not against the idea forever, just until Square figures out a way to make fully fleshed out races that can wear the same items and have the same customization options as the others.
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  4. #14
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    Zawshank Amirka
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrForester View Post
    Rest assured that new race or no, they will never, ever work on Viera and Hrothgar hats.
    I'm not too sure about that. They've been making newer expansion helmets work, and even added in some old helmets to fit their heads. Now that fem hroth is coming out, it's only a matter of time before this too gets struck off the list.
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    Bad Lucky
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    No. You're wrong. Rather have a new race than hats.
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  6. #16
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    Aileen Pureheart
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    New races is mostly on the art team and resources spent on them would only impact future gear glamours and not gameplay.

    Now new jobs on the other hand, those WILL impact development in all areas and possibly dilute other jobs.
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  7. #17
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    Ymir Bombullshale
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shankz View Post
    I'm not too sure about that. They've been making newer expansion helmets work, and even added in some old helmets to fit their heads. Now that fem hroth is coming out, it's only a matter of time before this too gets struck off the list.
    We have a thread that details this and very consistently in Endwalker new headgear is not usable by Viera. There is no pattern of them getting better. Consistently when they release new Raid/Crafted gear 2-3 sets will have headgear wearable by Viera, the others will not be wearable.
    When holiday events come out? the reward is headgear Viera can't use. Island Sanctuary and Variant? Headgear Viera can't use. PvP? Headgear Viera can't use. They are not getting better about this and from the preview of the AF sets in Dawntrail, they are not going to get better about this on their own.
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    Last edited by VerdeLuck; 01-08-2024 at 03:12 AM.

  8. #18
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    Flan Vongola
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    I also am against new races. At least until they fix existing races, as well as update the character creator.
    There are a lot of other corners and spots, that need should be prioritised.
    It takes a lot of time and testing to glamours on each body and race.
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    Last edited by xbahax92; 06-13-2024 at 05:42 PM.

  9. #19
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    Selene Halflight
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    It's honestly the reasonable out look in getting what we want, the game functioning or being complete as it should, and it doesn't flood the developers with work that could be spent elsewhere.

    We all want Races, Unlocked Gear, Glamour Improvements, Creation Upgrades, Shop adjustments.

    But while we must never stop demanding and pushing for certain goals.

    The timeline, when only speaking of the timeline. Should be Getting through the backlog of stuff that needs to be done.

    In the future we will have more streamlined development. As seen with the HeadMorphs they've show, as well as a Myriad of other things.

    But right now, we have to get through the stuff holding it back, or avoid continually kicking task down the road. (it'll just be a drain on overall optimism of the game devs efforts, and consumer faith.)

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    Now do we know what they'll be doing, not at all.

    They're probably trying to find a way to increase their speed of development. (Like the Headmorph Example given above. While not a given, it's something to keep in mind of whatever it is they're potentially or actually doing.)

    But again, it's kinda on SE to hurry up and show effort. (and while it is bs to say it after.., 4years? <we kinda need to be patient, though we waited far longer than most should. but we must never let emotion go rampant>)
    but on that front we can only really wait to see change.

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    That said, there is currently no real reason to push for another race.
    It's all just gonna be wishing-wanting but no actual need.

    While we should push on other topics(ones that uplift all other systems or one alone)

    We can safely and easily put New Races on the backburner for now.

    The workers on the races could spend their time reducing the wait we have on a whole bunch of other things.

    [TLDR: we all know it ain't a matter of, if we can have it or not. But a Matter of when we should have it, and what should matter and be prioritized first.

    Which just happens to overall be, them overcoming the hurdles of headgear, and other longstanding issues. (so they can Develop unimpeded later on.)
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    Last edited by GTK0HLK; 01-08-2024 at 03:22 AM.

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    Shayun Ragara
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    Zalera
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    A better equivalent announcement for races would be expanded character creation options for what we already have--things like more horns for Au Ra, new faces for non-Hyur, that kind of thing. Viera and Hrothgar (especially Hrothgar) are still lagging behind in options, years after they were implemented, and even with new items that have been added after the devs knew they had to work around them.

    Any new race is going to have the same problems but worse, especially if they're not just a human with bits stuck on them.
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