What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Solakor]

I feel like XIV in particular has just gotten away from what it means to tell a compelling story. A lot of what drew me in was the internal conflicts of the WoL as well as the possibility that we were fighting a fight that would possibly be our undoing. But it ultimately fell short due to so much of what has happened, what was happening and now seemingly what is going to happen, be reduced to Shounen anime nonsense with a fell good msg. And I'll be honest, some of my favorite animes are just that, but at least in those cases it feels reductive. Metion feels reductive, how the ancients turned out feels reductive.

One moment I'm praising the story for there to be this possibility that the planet itself was enacting a possible cycle, this unknown sound comming seemingly from deep within the planet, to a giant bird familiar who's too empathetic, manipulating the powers of emotion to exact her vengence for making her feel feels......Can we go back to when we thought Zodiark and Hydaelyn were two parts of some bigger Primal God that was in the earth making the sounds that turned people into monsters?

This.
I don't understand how you can eat up this nonsense after the more mature writing that happened before.
Like how do the "best minds" who can literally do almost anything decide that an immature kid who is confused with his emotions and how the world works should be a leader of a section of their society and then make him able to create a thing without restraints?
And the biggest offender, power of feelings. M8 did they pay disney for the copyright for that?

I will give the writer a bit of leeway for covid and trying to cram everything into a single patch so ultimately the fault lies with the one who decided they need to wrap things up quick.
IMO they should have just took their time and made 2 expacs to flesh out the garlemald arc and then the asciancs arc.

[Lady_Silvermoon]

And the biggest offender, power of feelings. M8 did they pay disney for the copyright for that?

Oh how I wish my problem with Endwalker was that it had a lame saccharin sweet moral. Because see, the moral I got wasn't the power of feelings, but that for the strong to survive, the weak must be culled. And the weak are any ethnic group sitting on land we want and the mentally ill. Hermes, Meteion and the blasphemies are all dangers to society due to an inability to handle trauma. So much of a danger that the entire universe might end if these weaklings are allowed to roam free. They must be put down for the good of all. It's the kind of mentality that gets mentally ill people choked to death on subways because the passengers are afraid of their strange behavior.

How they gave our beloved mommy the same worldview as Zenos without noticing is beyond me. "Meaningless? Men die that others may live. Those who survive are stronger for it." How do you accidentally make an argument for fascism?! How did no one see what was being implied by Endwalker?

So by the time we get to the 6.1 content and they are sticking with morals as benign as the importance teamwork, you get no complaints from me because at least it's not about who we should exterminate for the good of all. But then based on comments here it hit me that Golbez has been working with others the entire time. Both before and after their world fell to darkness, so the argument that their world fell to darkness because they fought alone falls flat. They came out on a tricycle with training wheels and still messed up their themes. I am afraid for Dawntrail. I just don't trust these writers to not have us do a colonialism at this point.

I'm already getting my arguments ready as to why it's wrong to go to a foreign land, conquer them and install a government that serves our interests because at this point we didn't defeat the Garleans--we became them.

[Vyrerus]

Oh how I wish my problem with Endwalker was that it had a lame saccharin sweet moral. Because see, the moral I got wasn't the power of feelings, but that for the strong to survive, the weak must be culled. And the weak are any ethnic group sitting on land we want and the mentally ill. Hermes, Meteion and the blasphemies are all dangers to society due to an inability to handle trauma. So much of a danger that the entire universe might end if these weaklings are allowed to roam free. They must be put down for the good of all. It's the kind of mentality that gets mentally ill people choked to death on subways because the passengers are afraid of their strange behavior.

How they gave our beloved mommy the same worldview as Zenos without noticing is beyond me. "Meaningless? Men die that others may live. Those who survive are stronger for it." How do you accidentally make an argument for fascism?! How did no one see what was being implied by Endwalker?

So by the time we get to the 6.1 content and they are sticking with morals as benign as the importance teamwork, you get no complaints from me because at least it's not about who we should exterminate for the good of all. But then based on comments here it hit me that Golbez has been working with others the entire time. Both before and after their world fell to darkness, so the argument that their world fell to darkness because they fought alone falls flat. They came out on a tricycle with training wheels and still messed up their themes. I am afraid for Dawntrail. I just don't trust these writers to not have us do a colonialism at this point.

I'm already getting my arguments ready as to why it's wrong to go to a foreign land, conquer them and install a government that serves our interests because at this point we didn't defeat the Garleans--we became them.

Well, it's gonna be a romp around fantasy Brazil. Which Japan has strong ties with due to sending a lot of people to live there and exchange in culture since the 1800s/early 1900s.

I'm not exactly sure what that means, but it's also shaping up to be full of FFIX references. FFIX was a game all about a dying planet come to consume a not dying one, and have its inhabitants whose souls were in stasis take new bodies and live on the new planet, once their old planet had merged with/consumed it.

I guess it COULD be interesting, but then the Scions are in the trailer, and they have a knack for impressing Sharlayan customs onto everywhere they go, albeit slightly more aggressive Sharlayan customs.

[Lady_Silvermoon]

Well, it's gonna be a romp around fantasy Brazil. Which Japan has strong ties with due to sending a lot of people to live there and exchange in culture since the 1800s/early 1900s.

I'm not exactly sure what that means, but it's also shaping up to be full of FFIX references. FFIX was a game all about a dying planet come to consume a not dying one, and have its inhabitants whose souls were in stasis take new bodies and live on the new planet, once their old planet had merged with/consumed it.

I guess it COULD be interesting, but then the Scions are in the trailer, and they have a knack for impressing Sharlayan customs onto everywhere they go, albeit slightly more aggressive Sharlayan customs.

What's funny is the sole reason I owned a Playstation was to play the Final Fantasy games. When they came out on the next Playstation, I'd sell back my old one and buy the next edition and every time the people at GameStop would marvel at how clean it was and I was too embarrassed to admit I bought it only to play one or two games. So imagine how feel right now when you tell me the plot off FFIX and I'm like WHAT?! I played this. I played nothing but this and I don't remember any of that. All I remember is Vivi was constructed.

Though if they do go with that plotline, I trust that the people coming to eat our planet will be the bad guys. That's all I ask.

[Vyrerus]

What's funny is the sole reason I owned a Playstation was to play the Final Fantasy games. When they came out on the next Playstation, I'd sell back my old one and buy the next edition and every time the people at GameStop would marvel at how clean it was and I was too embarrassed to admit I bought it only to play one or two games. So imagine how feel right now when you tell me the plot off FFIX and I'm like WHAT?! I played this. I played nothing but this and I don't remember any of that. All I remember is Vivi was constructed.

Though if they do go with that plotline, I trust that the people coming to eat our planet will be the bad guys. That's all I ask.

Time for you to replay it with adult eyes

[Lady_Silvermoon]

Time for you to replay it with adult eyes

Had replays ever occurred to me, I probably wouldn't have sold back all those Playstations. Plus, if I were to replay one I'd probably pick one where the plot stuck with me like VII or Emo Death Walk...errrr, I mean X.