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    Anvaire's Avatar
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    Rihan Nurarihyon
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    Just a few ideas from me... ill play SMN no matter what happens. These are very Blue Sky Thinking so i know all are unlikely.

    Remove:

    - Physick
    -Resurrection

    Adjust:
    - the overall rotation so the Jewels give demis and not the other way round. Perhaps give the choice of phoenix or Bahamut by the type of jewels used. so you build up to Demi kinda like how Sb Bahamut was built up to by using Dreadwyrm trance. In this instance, you would need to use all three jewel summons or do something within each to ensure the summon is called.
    - Ifrit, Garuda, titan Rotations to further diversify and add more casted abilities.
    - Demi Bahamut & Demi phoenix - Restore SHB rotation of 1-2 for phoenix to diversify.
    - Energy Drain, energy siphon, affect altered by the current summon you have attuned to or out.
    - Fester and Painflare adjusted to be more job Thematic or removed. or affect altered by the current summon you have attuned to or out.
    Add

    -Add New Gem Summons - Perhaps the warring triad. Or Ramuh, Leviathan and one other (Not shiva due to how she was summoned - although having the SMN become the jewel summons being trance based rather than just attunement would be a good mechanic)
    -Add Grand Summon -(They are the eldest and most powerful of all primals after all) Either Hydealyn Simalcrum or Zodiark Simalcrum. As upgrades to bahamut and Phoenix. (and perhaps a glamour system to choose) Alternatively have the grand summon be the finisher burst you build up to.
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    Last edited by Anvaire; 01-05-2024 at 01:08 AM.

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    Sieya Mizuno
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Anvaire View Post
    Just a few ideas from me... ill play SMN no matter what happens. These are very Blue Sky Thinking so i know all are unlikely.

    Remove:

    - Physick
    -Resurrection

    Adjust:
    - the overall rotation so the Jewels give demis and not the other way round. Perhaps give the choice of phoenix or bahamut by the type of jewels used. so you build up to Demi kinda like how Sb bahamut ws built up to by using Dreadwyrm trance. In this instance, you would need to use all three jewel summons or do something within each to ensure the summon is called.
    - Ifrit, Garuda, titan Rotations to further diversify and add more casted abilities.
    - Demi Bahamut & Demi phoenix - Restore SHB rotation of 1-2 for phoenix to diversify.
    - Energy Drain, energy siphon, affect altered by the current summon you have attuned to or out.
    - Fester and Painflare adjusted to be more job Thematic or removed. or affect altered by the current summon you have attuned to or out.
    Add

    -Add New Gem Summons (They are the eldest and most powerful of all primals) - Perhaps the warring triad. Or Ramuh, Leviathan and one other (Not shiva due to how she was summoned - although having the SMN become the jewel summons being trance based rather than just attunement would be a good mechanic)
    -Add Grand Summon - Either Hydealyn Simalcrum or Zodiark Simalcrum. As upgrades to bahamut and Phoenix. (and perhaps a glamour system to choose) Alternatively have the grand summon be the finisher burst you build up to.
    We're hauling around Pheonix without issues so I see no reason why Shiva can't be summoned by us either.
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    Anvaire's Avatar
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    Rihan Nurarihyon
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    We're hauling around Pheonix without issues so I see no reason why Shiva can't be summoned by us either.
    There's a key difference though, we have phoenix due to its aether and Bahamuts being mixed together after the calamity.

    We fight phoenix as phoenix, even though it has the soul of lousoix inside it effectively is a primal.

    Shiva was evoked as a transformation, it changed how ysale worked and while it could be used as a summon, i personally think it would be better used in a similar way. If we channeled the jewel summons so they affected our player character, i wouldn't be opposed to it. But then, i would also like to have non ARR linked summons as currently thats all we have which is kinda... a shame considering how many Primals / similar constructs we've basked in the aether of.

    Bottom line though, its just my personal preference. I'm opposed to it, but not to the point id get mad or upset if they actually added shiva to the summon rosta.
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