Thoughts on the Yoshi P AMA?

[Atelier-Bagur]

Well that's exactly the problem. When you multiply 5 major patches by 1 month that's exactly what you get. 5 Months lost. So we do have a point. Did you know you could be about a week out from buying dawntrail? But no. Look forward to it, exactly 5 to 6 months from now.

You misunderstand me, I meant the difference not the current 2 weeks longer thing. In fact I think people forget how quickly anyone finishes a patch cycle's content even back in the supposed "glory" when we had shorter periods.

Now Im not saying that them prolonging more and more leads to a good thing for the players. I think its ridiculous if it ever becomes half a year between patches but the whole 2 week thing is literally nothing and inoffensive in the current gaming space. There is so much shit coming around and HAS been around that I hope the future of MMOs people will start to realize that tying yourself to one game is extremely bad for both sides. Actually I take that back, its not extremely bad but pathetic and sad if the only thing that keeps you awake is just one game. Also I assume most of us are grown adults, time dilation is a real thing the more the years go by the faster it feels time goes by, and I dont think the current patch cycle is as differential as people make it out to be.

So yes, you dont have much of a point...........for now.

[Rithy255]

To me it feels like mainly nothing burger questions to be honest.

[Atelier-Bagur]

To me it feels like mainly nothing burger questions to be honest.

Many of these are just confirmed givens that people have assumed so I guess that matters to hear it. But yeah its just nothing.

[sindriiisgaming]

The patch cycle is very frequent though. Developing things takes time. The only thing that conceivably make it faster is switching to the Unreal 5 engine or using AI for everything.

I think that's what people really want when they say more frequent patch cycles.

It takes more than 5 years for everyone to stop playing a high-population game they have played for 10 years, especially when it is regularly producing top-quality content such as extreme, savage, ultimate, criterion, items and story.

It would take at least 10 years for people to slowly leave and then for returners to stop returning and if SE keeps creating top-quality content like this then many of them will probably just return anyway.

Currently there still isn't really a good amount of statistical evidence of this in the first place.

It takes 5 minutes for people to leave and the state of the game rn is making ppl leave/unsub.
As for "quality content" I have to seriously ask if you've been participating in the resent content post 6.2.

P3s, p7s, p10s are all examples of current savages that are not quality they are poorly designed and unenjoyable with ott body checks.
As for ex's I could name yet another example. Zodiark. Rubicante zeromus have all been failures with nonreal skills level.
Criterion is nit being done and the savage weapon augment is tone deff.
Ultimate- omega had a bug mid way into the fight that literally was killing random players due to agro
Story has been exceptionally poor post endwalker 6.0

Where is this quality content... really?

[Ath192]

You misunderstand me, I meant the difference not the current 2 weeks longer thing. In fact I think people forget how quickly anyone finishes a patch cycle's content even back in the supposed "glory" when we had shorter periods.

Now Im not saying that them prolonging more and more leads to a good thing for the players. I think its ridiculous if it ever becomes half a year between patches but the whole 2 week thing is literally nothing and inoffensive in the current gaming space. There is so much shit coming around and HAS been around that I hope the future of MMOs people will start to realize that tying yourself to one game is extremely bad for both sides. Actually I take that back, its not extremely bad but pathetic and sad if the only thing that keeps you awake is just one game. Also I assume most of us are grown adults, time dilation is a real thing the more the years go by the faster it feels time goes by, and I dont think the current patch cycle is as differential as people make it out to be.

So yes, you dont have much of a point...........for now.

This sounds like a bunch of treading back and excuses because you didn't do the math and now you're trying to climb out of a hole. But okay. And no, the previous content cycle was slow, it was never glory days but it was bearable.

It doesn't make sense to pay for a sub when you get 1 week of content every 4 months, but it's not like I want to let go of my house in my server either. There's millions invested in it and its too much of a hassle to get one again.

Just because you're old and time is going fast for you or you have other things to do is not defensible for the people who actually want content to play in a game they pay for. The good news is that if its all going too fast for you, you can skip whatever you don't find appealing. But for us its not like we can play what isn't there....

[Deceptus]

Who in the flying F uses potions in low level dungeons when everything is such a face roll?

People who realize that mitigation and healing OGCDs aren't really available until after lvl 50. Combined with the fact you can get literal sprouts in there who have level 10 white equipment at lvl 40, that almost might not even have gear optimized for their role (Tanks with dps gear or worse caster gear)

But please, be more crass for absolutely no reason. You are simply showing your ignorance if you don't use a resource with a low CD that can be bought on the MB for pennies.

[Hyperia]

You misunderstand me, I meant the difference not the current 2 weeks longer thing. In fact I think people forget how quickly anyone finishes a patch cycle's content even back in the supposed "glory" when we had shorter periods.

Now Im not saying that them prolonging more and more leads to a good thing for the players. I think its ridiculous if it ever becomes half a year between patches but the whole 2 week thing is literally nothing and inoffensive in the current gaming space. There is so much shit coming around and HAS been around that I hope the future of MMOs people will start to realize that tying yourself to one game is extremely bad for both sides. Actually I take that back, its not extremely bad but pathetic and sad if the only thing that keeps you awake is just one game. Also I assume most of us are grown adults, time dilation is a real thing the more the years go by the faster it feels time goes by, and I dont think the current patch cycle is as differential as people make it out to be.

So yes, you dont have much of a point...........for now.

The largest issue here is that we didn’t go from 3 months to 3.5 or even 4 months but to 4.5 months.
As such, they snuck in a 1.5 month gap between patches.

The original timeline was 3 months and 3.5 months when it went over a holiday or was larger content. They told us that they needed to go 4 months but in all actuality, they raised it to 4.5 without telling us and reducing the content we got in the patches.

Having 9 months since 6.5 to 7.0 is the longest we have ever gone in a content drought. I really hope they can explain why the gaps are so large and the 6.x content delivered was so thin but I doubt it.

If I had to guess what is going on, they probably bit off more than they can chew with essentially relaunching the game with 7.0, starting a multi-expansion graphics overhaul (let’s be real, it’s going to take years to update everything), and making all MSQ dungeons in the game trust compatible as they had to remake all of them.

I really hope DT will be so good that we will forget all about this 7 months from now… I really hope…

[Aword3213]

It takes 5 minutes for people to leave and the state of the game rn is making ppl leave/unsub.
As for "quality content" I have to seriously ask if you've been participating in the resent content post 6.2.

P3s, p7s, p10s are all examples of current savages that are not quality they are poorly designed and unenjoyable with ott body checks.
As for ex's I could name yet another example. Zodiark. Rubicante zeromus have all been failures with nonreal skills level.
Criterion is nit being done and the savage weapon augment is tone deff.
Ultimate- omega had a bug mid way into the fight that literally was killing random players due to agro
Story has been exceptionally poor post endwalker 6.0

Where is this quality content... really?

There's none. There wasn't any before. There won't be any in the future.

The exploratory zones in 7.0 will be as boring and uninteresting as people used to complain about Eureka and Bojza.

The combat will still be as boring and janky as people complained back in ShB and before

Final Fantasy XIV is claimed to be in maintance mode as soon as its first release.

The dev never listen and they will never be. Every discussion here is for the entertainment for community reps during their lunch break

There's absolutely no reason to remain subbed. Anyone who keeps subbing and leaving feedback despite knowing thsese is in deep copium.

[Sebazy]

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Your sig got me looking at the current metacritic user score trends out of curiosity.

The last ~100 ratings have been enough to nudge the score down to 8.9 with the average reviews left over the last month or two being more around the 7 mark. I suspect the next 6 months aren't going to be particularly kind to that score.

[Absurdity]

If I had to guess what is going on, they probably bit off more than they can chew with essentially relaunching the game with 7.0, starting a multi-expansion graphics overhaul (let’s be real, it’s going to take years to update everything), and making all MSQ dungeons in the game trust compatible as they had to remake all of them.

That's also somewhat my concern. Even if I give Dawntrail the biggest benefit of the doubt and assume that it's going to fix my major grievances with the game...if they bit off more than they could chew with the graphics overhaul is it going to be done with 7.0 or will they have to gradually update everything like they did with Trust dungeons? What is the patch cycle going to look like? Are we looking at 5 months between patches? 5.5 months?