(Large Housing Problem) 177 Bids on One House

[Khryseis_Astra]

That's just hoping for the best though, the waterfall thing that is. Also LB is a very specific area regarding sunset in particular so it'd be very difficult to even do, none of the plots that have the waterfall next to them have good sunset (sadly).

Oh I don’t want the sunset, I want the sunrise! And the moonrise. It’s why LB 59 is my favorite plot. lol

As for the rest, no one is trying to take anything away from anyone, we’re trying to get something added. Y’all can still fight it out for so-called “prestige” in the wards if they add instanced. It literally changes nothing for you or anyone else who feels that instanced is an “inferior” system. You wouldn’t have to interact with it in any way. People want to play this game, that they’re paying for, and have equal access to content. They’re not getting that with the current system, and they should be. FFXIV is a 10 year old game now. If they really want to keep it going for another 10, they need to be able to adapt and scale to their player base, and the future players they want to hopefully become long term subscribers.

[Palin]

That's part of the issue. Anyone with a big interest in housing doesn't want instanced housing. Instanced housing is a system other games already have. If I wanted instanced housing, I would go play something else. SE has an extremely unique housing situation. I haven't seen anything close since Aion and FFXIV made it even better. I would rather them completely abandon housing than spend time and resources on more instanced housing ideas. More wards are the single only option but stubborn SE absolutely refuses to go that route. We could have even avoided this trash lottery system if they just added wards, dynamically, until the large/medium demand was satiated. Their stance of "only until all the smalls are filled" is so out of touch with the community it is sickening.

No instanced. Neighborhoods or nothing.

Well, that's the reason why very few other games is using system simmilar to FFXIV. It's just not that good and leaves many people dissatisfied. Also the dynamic wards you praise so much would not be good solution at all. Not even looking at huge costs such growing neighbourhoods would put on servers processing power, it would most likely end with wards with only larges and mediums claimed making it even more missing that mystic "neighbourhood feel". Or if "all houses must be claimed" rule for new wards it would propably create lots of drama of people getting angry that noone gets the bad spots so new wards will open.

[Palin]

The fact you think people will give their ward house for instanced houses is a massive cope, you and I both know it.

Given a choice between a house in a ward and instanced one, i'd pick instance in a heartbeat

[Kaiproberts]

Given a choice between a house in a ward and instanced one, i'd pick instance in a heartbeat

Then go play any of the thousands of other MMOs that already have instanced housing. I literally only play the game because in-game housing neighborhoods are amazing and extremely rare in a game like this and I will fight for additional resources for housing in a direction that benefits why I am here to begin with. A lot of us don't want instanced housing. We want more resources dedicated to neighborhood housing instead of half-allocated resources to two different half-baked ideas. Neighborhood unique yay! Instanced bland booo!

[Palin]

Then go play any of the thousands of other MMOs that already have instanced housing. I literally only play the game because in-game housing neighborhoods are amazing and extremely rare in a game like this and I will fight for additional resources for housing in a direction that benefits why I am here to begin with. A lot of us don't want instanced housing. We want more resources dedicated to neighborhood housing instead of half-allocated resources to two different half-baked ideas. Neighborhood unique yay! Instanced bland booo!

I am propably like most players in this game and play for raiding/crating/glamouring and find housing to be a very nice inbetween thing to do, but not worth throwing everything away and move to another server or another game even. But i did play another MMO, and i know how a good instanced housing system can be and that any shortcomings it might have compared to wards can be patched over with some clever additions. Ward housing is giant hole that you'd need to pour so many resources into to make it even remotely satisfying and fair for all players interested in it.

[Stormpeaks]

I am propably like most players in this game and play for raiding/crating/glamouring and find housing to be a very nice inbetween thing to do, but not worth throwing everything away and move to another server or another game even. But i did play another MMO, and i know how a good instanced housing system can be and that any shortcomings it might have compared to wards can be patched over with some clever additions. Ward housing is giant hole that you'd need to pour so many resources into to make it even remotely satisfying and fair for all players interested in it.

Play a game that has instanced housing in it.

Period.

You dont care much about it anyway as you yourself are saying, so why does it matter if you have a house or not ?

[Palin]

Play a game that has instanced housing in it.

Period.

You dont care much about it anyway as you yourself are saying, so why does it matter if you have a house or not ?

Thank you for your incredibly insightful suggestion, but I'd much rather prefer to play games I want to play. Improvements in housing as suggested in my opinion would be a great boon and very fun thing to have around but not something I lose my sleep over with.

[Stormpeaks]

Thank you for your incredibly insightful suggestion, but I'd much rather prefer to play games I want to play. Improvements in housing as suggested in my opinion would be a great boon and very fun thing to have around but not something I lose my sleep over with.

It's an improvement to you and the minuscule part of the community that wants instanced housing.

The system we have is fine, it just needs more wards, dynamic wards would be the optimal way to do this.

I will repeat again, if you want instanced housing so much, you can have it in a different game, FFXIV has ward housing not instanced and that's just the way it is and is going to be in the future, the devs are very satisfied with how housing works in this game, and yes that includes the scarcity, they don't want housing to be apartments 2.0.

If you want a miserable experience with a house alone in the middle of nowhere with pregenerated scenery and houses, have at it in other games.

We already have 1 system that needs improvement, we don't need 2.

[Palin]

It's an improvement to you and the minuscule part of the community that wants instanced housing.

Given how often the subject of how people are frustrated with housing i am willing to expect that the amount of people who would be interested in housing alternatives might not be so miniscule. People just don’t care enough about housing to say anything at all, or are just not aware that they can ask for something different, or that there are alternatives at all.

The system we have is fine, it just needs more wards, dynamic wards would be the optimal way to do this.

I really don’t expect the dynamic wards to be the resolution to those problems you’d expect. Unless what you expect is endless strings of empty lavender beds wards, with only large 29 or whatever that popular spot is. Or people getting bullied into claiming unwanted spots just so a new ward can open, for others to claim better places. Not to mention the processing power it would require to have such dynamically allocated memory would be most likely very hard to achieve.

FFXIV has ward housing not instanced and that's just the way it is and is going to be in the future, the devs are very satisfied with how housing works in this game, and yes that includes the scarcity, they don't want housing to be apartments 2.0.

If devs were so satisfied with this system they would not give us apartments to get the most basic experience of housing. Or they would not give us island sanctuary outdoor furnishing so we can use those without at least a small house. Or they would not have to turn off the auto demo every time some disaster struck. Besides if we would take
“devs made it this way so we should accept it as it is” we would still be stuck on 1.0 gameplay rules. No system was sacred before so why does this one must stay as it is? People are not so satisfied and while I do not consider housing that big of a deal for many, it can be part of a larger sum of little nitpics that would make people leave.

If you want a miserable experience with a house alone in the middle of nowhere with pregenerated scenery and houses, have at it in other games.

And if you want to fight dozens of people for a spot and be at the mercy of RNG just to land next to a gingerbread house surrounded with namazu effieges then be my guest. I am not asking for wards to be removed. Just an alternative

[NanaWiloh]

Dynamic ward creation will be possible if SE goes full cloud servers for FF14. But at this moment no the current infrastructure cant do it. And until we know SE exact plans in regards to cloud servers we are stuck with what we have now.