We need to talk about the PC Gamer article

[Dorito_Burrito]

This article doesn't go into nearly as much depth as it could. It briefly touches on the absence of exploratory zones and the problems with criterion's reward structure, while barely getting into the formulaic rollout and that's about it. From how people in this thread were reacting, (attacking the source instead of just reading the thing and discussing what is being said) I thought the article was gonna call out the lackluster alliance raids, the samey jobs, the sorta lukewarm way their 10 year story was resolved and the post-story that lost a lot of people and ultimately felt like filler, etc etc etc but instead they sorta gently touched on a couple of new features that could use some improvements going forward and of course that's all it takes for the fanboys here to lose their mind.

Going off the first reply, and a reply I saw earlier where someone who asked what they should do in the game was told to just google it, it legit seems like there's a certain camp that just wants to use these forums as a kind of offtopic hub for talking about coffee or spamming emotes at each other.



You are aware this is a board for talking about Final Fantasy XIV, right?

Yeah it's for talking about Final Fantasy XIV, but there's no sentiment in that article that hasn't already been posted here ad nauseam. It's making reading these boards during lunch at work boring.

[CaptainLagbeard]

I would say the biggest shake up to mechanical stagnation the game has seen in recent times was the Variant Dungeons.

[Kes13a]

thanks for yet another (daily) post about how things are declining

you once asked what it would take for someone to unsubscribe. what exactly is it that keep you here OP? a majority of people here have harped on something about the game and it is far from perfect, but we generally enjoy playing it, or I suspect we would consider our money better spent elsewhere. but you, I think you have a deep rooted something about the game and are not having fun. you seriously need to decide if you want to be here, and by here I dont mean the forums.

[Stormpeaks]

thanks for yet another (daily) post about how things are declining

you once asked what it would take for someone to unsubscribe. what exactly is it that keep you here OP? a majority of people here have harped on something about the game and it is far from perfect, but we generally enjoy playing it, or I suspect we would consider our money better spent elsewhere. but you, I think you have a deep rooted something about the game and are not having fun. you seriously need to decide if you want to be here, and by here I dont mean the forums.

This tbh, the daily "ffxiv is dying" and "the ffxiv community is bad" threads are getting very stale.

If the game is so bad and the community too, play a different game. We'll be fine without you OP I promise

[Atelier-Bagur]

I need a thread titled "The End of Final Fantasy XIV" or "The Downfall of Final Fantasy XIV" next please

[Eastwall]

And here I thought people were criticizing the developers for not improving the game. Now it turns out they're being criticized for improving it.

Goes to show you just can't win.

I skimmed the article but didn't read it fully. Seemed like she was complaining about how SE continues to use the same content release formula and wants them to change it because she's bored, then tossed in a few community memes in an attempt to gain credibility.

I feel like all I needed to know about the author was included in the profile at the end. "When she's not staring at her bunny girl, she can be found sweating out rhythm games, pretending to be good at fighting games or spending far too much money at her local arcade. " In other words, she doesn't really play the game. She just logs in to stare at her Viera for whatever reason.

I'll repeat what I've said many times before. If you're not longer enjoying the game, take your money elsewhere. Blizzard didn't pay attention to what players had to say until WoW players took their money elsewhere, or stopped playing modern retail to play Classic instead.

SE will not behave any differently. As long as FFXIV is not falling massively short of whatever revenue goals they've set for the game, they're going to stick with a formula that is making money for them. When it stops making money, that's when they'll think about change.

Can't agree anymore. People got to vote with their money

[Aword3213]

I need a thread titled "The End of Final Fantasy XIV" or "The Downfall of Final Fantasy XIV" next please

The Many Deaths of Final Fantasy XIV

[RaideDuku]

[Turtledeluxe]

I skimmed the article but didn't read it fully. Seemed like she was complaining about how SE continues to use the same content release formula and wants them to change it because she's bored, then tossed in a few community memes in an attempt to gain credibility.

I feel like all I needed to know about the author was included in the profile at the end. "When she's not staring at her bunny girl, she can be found sweating out rhythm games, pretending to be good at fighting games or spending far too much money at her local arcade. " In other words, she doesn't really play the game. She just logs in to stare at her Viera for whatever reason.

I'll repeat what I've said many times before. If you're not longer enjoying the game, take your money elsewhere. Blizzard didn't pay attention to what players had to say until WoW players took their money elsewhere, or stopped playing modern retail to play Classic instead.

SE will not behave any differently. As long as FFXIV is not falling massively short of whatever revenue goals they've set for the game, they're going to stick with a formula that is making money for them. When it stops making money, that's when they'll think about change.

16 likes and none of you seem to understand

- People have left the game
- They're leaving the game
- They're playing it less
- Revenue has been down for several quarters

So you're being incredibly redundant. SE devs are complacent and think the bump from 7.0 that is inevitable will somehow justify them. What the article is pointing out is what if 7.0 doesn't really sustain hype and players just continue the downtrend? You're acting like poor performance is just "woops this week is bad we need to change the game". A fundamental shift in behavior likely won't begin until the months after 7.0 is released.

So just as with WoW, it wasn't one day "oops 5 million people quit". It was years of annoying content drops and negative feedback.

And I can't emphasize enough devs and players make this assumption-- "Oh it's just the end of a patch cycle, 7.0 will bring the game back to where it was". Yeah keep assuming that. Players sang Endwalker's praises for two months at most. Once the glow of MSQ is over again we will see how engaging the game is in its current state.

[Kes13a]

16 likes and none of you seem to understand

- People have left the game
- They're leaving the game
- They're playing it less
- Revenue has been down for several quarters

So you're being incredibly redundant. SE devs are complacent and think the bump from 7.0 that is inevitable will somehow justify them. What the article is pointing out is what if 7.0 doesn't really sustain hype and players just continue the downtrend? You're acting like poor performance is just "woops this week is bad we need to change the game". A fundamental shift in behavior likely won't begin until the months after 7.0 is released.

So just as with WoW, it wasn't one day "oops 5 million people quit". It was years of annoying content drops and negative feedback.

And I can't emphasize enough devs and players make this assumption-- "Oh it's just the end of a patch cycle, 7.0 will bring the game back to where it was". Yeah keep assuming that. Players sang Endwalker's praises for two months at most. Once the glow of MSQ is over again we will see how engaging the game is in its current state.

I think we understand very well.

the people who complain have every right to. however they constantly complain and still.. pay money to be here.

this is an mmo, kinda... people will always come and go. when they are done with what they wanted to do, or experience, they will play it less. revenue will always rubber band because of this.

are the devs complacent? I dont know, I am not in their work place or in their heads. many still enjoy the game, and some of us even understand that things are not always how we want but we enjoy it enough to keep paying for it until it doesnt do it for us any more. People such as the OP post countless variations of the same tired drivel, and yet keep rewarding SE (or any game company for that matter) with their money.

so please feel free to educate me on why the rest of us are misguided when we still enjoy things, and the OP doesnt, and expresses that DAILY and still... gives them money. is the attention they get from a handful of forum goers worth it?

we seem to understand.. but do you?