Feels like people are more toxic in high-end duty Party Finder than before

[sindriiisgaming]

You're confused about what I said, or pushing some weird pro-addon agenda. Let me be clear though: WoW was developed from the beginning around addons, FFXIV was developed around not having addons. It's not a valid perspective to think addons are acceptable in this game.

I never "said otherwise", most people are addon abusers in this game that should be banned for breaking ToS. It's not an argument, you are in the wrong if you have any addons installed.

so ive been lurking for a little while and im going to be honest, you seam completly out of touch with the community. i havent seen a single person agree with anything youve said, ive watched you shame and call for the bans of everybody who even installed a mod ever. unaware this game would be comitting buisness suicide and loose 90% of its players. im not even sure why aswell you comment on topics and dmiss them because YOU dont care about them. i feel honestly like youre emposing your opinnion on others while dismissing there own. im on console. and i dont want to be represented like this tbh. i think aswell.. that those who are just trying to br ciritical of the game are only helping it, but youve endoctrinated yourself into this "must agree with everything CBU3 does" cult so much you say things without ciritical thinking. if mods were so horrible, why is square adding them to the game one by one... cant you see the hypocrasy... ive seen in the last year players having to use ACT as a legitimate means of defneding themselves from 1 - 1 - 1 combo trolls who just play lethargically in the dungeon.

[HikariKurosawa]

ive seen in the last year players having to use ACT as a legitimate means of defneding themselves from 1 - 1 - 1 combo trolls who just play lethargically in the dungeon.

this is a good idea. I might resubscribe just to do this in dungeons until people start getting banned for parsing. How are you defending yourselves from players who aren't playing their job correctly?

[Saraide]

this is a good idea. I might resubscribe just to do this in dungeons until people start getting banned for parsing. How are you defending yourselves from players who aren't playing their job correctly?

You know your animations play for other people too, right? No one with knowledge of a job needs ACT to identify sandbags.

[sindriiisgaming]

this is a good idea. I might resubscribe just to do this in dungeons until people start getting banned for parsing. How are you defending yourselves from players who aren't playing their job correctly?

The only one who'll get banned is you. Lethargic play is against tos. So yea.. gg on breaking the rules just to inforce them in some unhinged backward way. You're not a gm. Get off your horse and stop pretending to be one

[HikariKurosawa]

The only one who'll get banned is you. Lethargic play is against tos. So yea.. gg on breaking the rules just to inforce them in some unhinged backward way. You're not a gm. Get off your horse and stop pretending to be one

No it isn't lol. But again, how are you defending yourselves from these evil bad players who don't read guides?

Each player has a different level of skill, and in some cases, there may be a situation where the duty/content will fail. From the perspective of a skilled player in such a situation, a less skilled player may appear to be "adversarial/uncooperative/apathetic," but even if this is the case, it is not a violation as long as the player is playing appropriately.

For example, the following types of situations fall under the act of giving an advantage to the enemy (or the opposing team/players in PvP content):
"I don't want to heal because there is a player I don't like in the group."
"I don't think we can clear this anyway, so I'll just get hit by the enemy attack and go AFK after I'm knocked out."
"I'm going to join the opposing team as a healer and do nothing so my friends on the other team can win the PvP content."
If a report has been filed and the prohibited activity is confirmed, a penalty will be issued.

all of this is very very different from playing a job suboptimally. I'm a hakaze samurai what can I say.

[Doozer]

No it isn't lol. But again, how are you defending yourselves from these evil bad players who don't read guides?

all of this is very very different from playing a job suboptimally. I'm a hakaze samurai what can I say.

Yeah it would be a shame if someone caught you "playing at a different skill level" after posting on the game's official forums about how you're purposefully going to play worse in order to slow everyone down.

[HikariKurosawa]

Yeah it would be a shame if someone caught you "playing at a different skill level" after posting on the game's official forums about how you're purposefully going to play worse in order to slow everyone down.

Not everyone has to play video games as if it's their career in life. It's okay to play on a lower skill level intentionally to avoid putting too much brain power into a leisure activity. Try hard in something meaningful for once in your life. Doozer switch the D in your name for an L.

If you guys are going to intentionally cheat and ruin my experience, I am not motivated to put effort into executing the complex rotations of this game consistently. It's enough to just do the mechanics and press buttons randomly with no consideration for the proper way of playing. You already actively ruin my experience by cheating, why shouldn't I push buttons the way I want to? It's an illegitimate experience no matter what I do, so why would I put any real effort into learning the proper way of playing when you're just going to cheat to compensate for "disabilities".

Also, never once did I imply I was doing it to "intentionally slow the group down". Get over yourself and stop lying all the time doozer. You have problematic behavior. The game is just more fun when you care less in this current environment. You want me to take it seriously? Stop breaking rules and make the game experience legitimate again. I'm not going to take a game seriously if the majority of the community is cheating, I'm going to play to relax and look at the content without caring about rotations.

[Mosha]

Also, never once did I imply I was doing it to "intentionally slow the group down".

I'm a hakaze samurai what can I say.

That comes off as I'm only going to use Hakaze throughout the duty ngl.

[Doozer]

Doozer switch the D in your name for an L.

Damn I really don't want to clog up my sig but that's a good one.

I'm going to play to relax and look at the content without caring about rotations.

Also you ain't playin a damn thing if you're unsubbed, clown.

[LianaThorne]

Not everyone has to play video games as if it's their career in life. It's okay to play on a lower skill level intentionally to avoid putting too much brain power into a leisure activity.

This is true, however, don't expect to also be carried through content if people are expecting a higher skill level in certain groups. You seem to be under the impression that everyone and their mother uses addons, which is so far from the case considering console players exist and have no access to them. There are also plenty of PC people that I speak to that don't use mods or addons because they enjoy the challenge.

Try hard in something meaningful for once in your life. Doozer switch the D in your name for an L.

Maybe just for one day, considering it's Christmas, you could drop the personal attacks against people?

If you guys are going to intentionally cheat and ruin my experience, I am not motivated to put effort into executing the complex rotations of this game consistently. It's enough to just do the mechanics and press buttons randomly with no consideration for the proper way of playing.

This is literally griefing. If you have proof of someone cheating and do not want to continue playing with them, then leave and try again. If you're just going into every group and sabotaging them regardless of whether or not you have proof of cheating, that is griefing.

You already actively ruin my experience by cheating, why shouldn't I push buttons the way I want to? It's an illegitimate experience no matter what I do, so why would I put any real effort into learning the proper way of playing when you're just going to cheat to compensate for "disabilities".

See my first response again.

Also, never once did I imply I was doing it to "intentionally slow the group down". Get over yourself and stop lying all the time doozer.

"If you guys are going to intentionally cheat and ruin my experience, I am not motivated to put effort into executing the complex rotations of this game consistently. It's enough to just do the mechanics and press buttons randomly with no consideration for the proper way of playing."

This is saying that you aren't putting forth your best effort because of a belief that people are cheating in your group. That is playing poorly to intentionally slow progress since you *could* play an optimal rotation but choose not to out of spite.

The game is just more fun when you care less in this current environment.

I could throw this same sentence back at you to be honest. The game is more fun when you care less about what other people are doing and just worry about doing your best. I'm honestly surprised you're not using this as fuel to motivate yourself to be great without even needing a parser or addons involved lol. I personally don't even use them and just learn the fights and learn my rotation because I enjoy raiding and the feeling of achievement when its over. I don't really care whether or not people use addons because people can play this game however they want to. If Square sees a real issue with any of it, they will step in like they have with World First in the past and pvp cheating with Feast. Worry about yourself and if you don't want to play the game the way the majority of people are (pressing their buttons in a logical manner and helping the party get through the content as quickly as possible), then that's fine. Just, don't expect anyone to carry you either or feel like they owe you a spot in their group.