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    Player Mawlzy's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    Clearly it's not poisoning the entire mode. I and several others have never had much issue with this supposed pre-made problem.

    Does it happen? Sure it does. Is it a problem everywhere? Not at all.

    Calling pre-mades a poison upon the entire mode is an exaggeration. And before you deflect and call me one of the pre-mades, I only queue solo, been doing it since FL began, will continue to queue solo.
    Friend, I'm not in the habit of accusing people here of anything. I believe we bother to post because we enjoy FL and want to see it improve and grow.

    I only play on Aether, so yes, I cannot speak for the entire mode.

    I do hope SQEX look into the data, because ultimately that should be the deciding factor. For example, if the vast majority of those queueing as a light party have comparable K/D/A and win-rates as those queuing solo, there is no problem worth addressing. But it sure doesn't feel like that.
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    Friend, I'm not in the habit of accusing people here of anything. I believe we bother to post because we enjoy FL and want to see it improve and grow.

    I only play on Aether, so yes, I cannot speak for the entire mode.

    I do hope SQEX look into the data, because ultimately that should be the deciding factor. For example, if the vast majority of those queueing as a light party have comparable K/D/A and win-rates as those queuing solo, there is no problem worth addressing. But it sure doesn't feel like that.
    I'm just covering my bases so I don't get accused of being a pre-made abuser myself.

    I've played on Crystal, Materia and Elemental, but the bulk of my matches are on Elemental. I suggest playing a few matches on Materia to see how people deal with the DRK combos, they've dealt with 3 famous DRK pre-mades for months now, they've gotten pretty good at dealing with it. Elemental is pretty evenly matched most of the time, you can see people fighting on mid in Onsal Hakair for 9 minutes with no clear victor, you can even occasionally time out on Onsal Hakair. Crystal is.....iffy, they seem to generally know where to go, but they seem hesitant to engage the enemy most of the time, but matches usually go pretty good if people have enough melee jobs that actually go fight.

    Can't speak much for Aether, I've barely played there, maybe I'll DC travel over to do my matches to see this pre-made problem for myself.

    As for SE looking at the data, I'd assume they won't see much needs changing. I won't deny that I've seen matches that massively favour one team, but I've also seen a lot of matches where the difference between 1st and 3rd place is less than 100 points. Maybe Aether really leans towards to former, I don't know, but I intend to find out for myself.
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