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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahbitha View Post
    I'm not saying it's The Empire Strikes Back, don't get me wrong. But I've enjoyed it and I don't intend to apologize.
    And you have all right to enjoy it. Good for you
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    Will put you on ignore if you can't form a logical argument but argue nonetheless

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Whether the Golbez arc goes anywhere in the future, we can't really say yet.
    we will go to the void one day this was an opening arc. SE likes to gives backstory super early before going into the expansion that goes into the story. they have done it before with the warriors of darkness.
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  3. #9123
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    Im glad Golbez arc ended and hope we can finally continue with a real adventure. Also, I'm not really a fan of them adding tidbits from other Final Fantasy titles to the MSQ. Sidequests, sure no biggie.
    But FFXIV should still focus on it's own thing.
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  4. #9124
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    Im glad Golbez arc ended and hope we can finally continue with a real adventure. Also, I'm not really a fan of them adding tidbits from other Final Fantasy titles to the MSQ. Sidequests, sure no biggie.
    But FFXIV should still focus on it's own thing.
    Sigh not this again. Say hello to once again 90% of the entirety of this game.

    Its ok to say you didnt care for the FFIV references but dont go around acting like FFXIV had any originality in its story and design. Its written and created to be a FF series theme park. Its time to open your eyes to the truth buddy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Sigh not this again. Say hello to once again 90% of the entirety of this game.

    Its ok to say you didnt care for the FFIV references but dont go around acting like FFXIV had any originality in its story and design. Its written and created to be a FF series theme park. Its time to open your eyes to the truth buddy
    Can you tell me which parts of the MSQ are basically retellings of other FF games?
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  6. #9126
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenZentra View Post
    Can you tell me which parts of the MSQ are basically retellings of other FF games?
    Patch 6.1-6.5 is pretty much a retelling of ff4 and there is lots of other final fantasy references throughout the main story. I don't know why people keep denying all the references and how certain parts of the story play out exactly like the older ff games.
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    That is when the true Vana'diel of legend will be reborn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebelheim View Post
    ...how certain parts of the story play out exactly like the older ff games.
    Like what? I think we all know 6.1-6.5 is a retelling. What else is a retelling in MSQ?
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  8. #9128
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenZentra View Post
    Like what? I think we all know 6.1-6.5 is a retelling. What else is a retelling in MSQ?
    If people have to point out every reference/retelling it seems the people that has to be told of every retelling/reference didn't pay much attention to the story. The whole integration of crystal tower in the story was a big reference to ff3. The whole dynamis thing is retelling/retooling something from ff11. There are plenty more retelling/retooling of various other final fantasy lore/references.
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    That is when the true Vana'diel of legend will be reborn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebelheim View Post
    If people have to point out every reference/retelling it seems the people that has to be told of every retelling/reference didn't pay much attention to the story. The whole integration of crystal tower in the story was a big reference to ff3. The whole dynamis thing is retelling/retooling something from ff11. There are plenty more retelling/retooling of various other final fantasy lore/references.
    A retelling and a reference to something are not the same thing. Otherwise we are going to have to call the first boss of Keeper of the Lake a retelling of the side-scrolling shoot-'em up, Einhander.

    Crystal Tower, yeah thats kinda true, it still sits in my head as non-MSQ cause it wasnt when I did it and I think you could argue its just putting the final dungeon of FF3 into FFXIV since I don't think there is actually that much story in FF3 when you are in the CT... Its more like clear the dungeon, kill the boss, beat the game at that point.
    Using the same name as something else from another game is something every FF game does, so I don't think that really matters when talking about retelling. Like in FF11, there is a dude named Gilgamesh, but he isn't the dimension hopping Gilgamesh everyone knows.

    As for dynamis specifically, I never played FF11, but all I can find about it is that it is a place (specifically a parallel dream-world to the main world) not a type of energy or whatever.

    Either way, my point in asking about retellings is that the story for these past few patches sucks because it is a retelling of FFIV. Its no surprise either that the story of Crystal Tower in ARR isn't that great either, and the fact is showed up later for ShB is just cause it was convenient and wasnt some planned idea all the way back from ARR. References, yeah they are everywhere and I prefer original ideas rather than throwbacks.

    That being said, until someone shows me, there are not that many (if not only 2) retellings of other FF games. (Which btw doesnt mean I think the story is some award winning thing, I just think its okay.)
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  10. #9130
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banriikku View Post
    Ahh, thats nice but you dont care for the question?

    Its true and everybody is entiteld to their opinion but its besides the point of the argument and is an answer to something what was NOT asked or discussed.
    As if i asked about a soccer match and youre answer is i like soccer.. yeah fine but my question ? I like it and i will not aopologize!!!!!
    In a university you would get a zero aka a fail for this, at work you would get scolded or worse fired.

    I apologize, you seem to be under the impression that I'm interested in debating with you about your criticisms of the story. I'm not. You're entitled to your opinion, just as I am entitled to mine. And I told you what my opinion was. That's really it. At the end of the day, this is entertainment and the only question that interests me is whether or not I enjoyed it. I did, therefore it's a good product. End of story. Lali-ho!
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