Cloud DC Proves Cross-Region Travel is OK

[Stormpeaks]

Nothing wrong with being able to visit friends in other regions, or participate in activities on other data centers without having to make an entirely new character with entirely new progression. That is the main reason anyone would actually want DC travel.

It is just the minority going to Aether "because it's a raid data center" that thus causes the majority to notice a dip in activity and feel pressured to go there as well and tell their friends they need to as well. But that is an easy fix if they prevent public High-End PFs being joined by travelers.

That's a separate issue affecting new data centers only and caused by the fact they are new. They should only allow travel to Dynamis, not from, until it's established its own active population enough that can supply content properly.

It is just the minority going to Aether

"a minority" lmao

you're right on par with SE saying that it only happened in the JP region and not on NA

then transfer your character there.

This

it's a single test server for stress testing. it doesn't really test cross region wise if anything you can easily go to a JP DC and play there. Just because people are gathered together testing doesn't mean they want cross region and the JP players has adamantly expressed they don't want cross region for years and Yoshi is probably going to keep it that way.

And this.

[GTK0HLK]

Megaservers are one thing I'll say is probably heading to far in one direction.

You'll end up seeing only activity in Communities/FC-GC/streamers who swallow and expel many on the daily basis.

While the common player will feel ever the increase of lack of impact of community and cooperation as they are likely to feel even more sidelined and rushed against a wall as the larger groups of players Rush Through doors faster than Black Friday Shoppers (in a world where death and trampling isn't an accident, but a feature).

There are simple solutions to fix them.
And many have stated it.
NA/EU tend to be more aligned even if their PF tends to match JP on some factors. (But would any of the EU/NA Honestly feel any animosity against players of the opposite region unless they are explicitly creation tension between each other? Not really.)

While JP is falling prey to stereotypes just like NA/EU is (kind of like how we'll have users always espousing the half-truths, or half-lies. Which can't be denied in totality. Exhibit "JP Cheating as much as the rest of the world")

The simple answer, Op isn't wrong.
Thought asking for the world, like Megaservers is less likely to occur.
(Other things can be worked on slowly. We must not forget thar SE will forge its own path, it's own version of systems in other games.)

BUT IT DOES NEED solutions like Region wide DF/PF/PVP/PVE. Not to the extreme like some have asked

But something that leads them to the changes asked.

Besides, look at it this way, one way forward is to entice other regions to follow suit.

NA/EU has many languages it shares in common(not only, or limited to English, or Spanish/French etc.)

If we had some form of region inclusive activity. it will eventually lead to a larger of JP or other East Region servers to take a bite, out of curiosity. (Unless their nation, says NO)

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Personally, I just want SE to give us Region Wide DF/PF/PVP at minimum. That way at least players new and potentially old will have reasons to stay in Dynamis as they have access to buffs and amenities without losing access to content or ViceVersa.

<and with new Major Patches/Expacs. Be forcefully Locked to Said Regions by Congestion. But of course, as long as SE wants to do so.>

It's Easy to Say that things won't change, and be combative or Joking about it.
But one also needs to be reasonable on asking for changes.

(Lead them to it, but don't Shove.)
They've stacked already enough Dissatisfaction(while still withing expected margins), that if they don't show they've done work on the game During 7.0
to have players actually demand en masses for change.

[Atelier-Bagur]

Megaservers are one thing I'll say is probably heading to far in one direction.

You'll end up seeing only activity in Communities/FC-GC/streamers who swallow and expel many on the daily basis.

While the common player will feel ever the increase of lack of impact of community and cooperation as they are likely to feel even more sidelined and rushed against a wall as the larger groups of players Rush Through doors faster than Black Friday Shoppers (in a world where death and trampling isn't an accident, but a feature).

There are simple solutions to fix them.
And many have stated it.
NA/EU tend to be more aligned even if their PF tends to match JP on some factors. (But would any of the EU/NA Honestly feel any animosity against players of the opposite region unless they are explicitly creation tension between each other? Not really.)

While JP is falling prey to stereotypes just like NA/EU is (kind of like how we'll have users always espousing the half-truths, or half-lies. Which can't be denied in totality. Exhibit "JP Cheating as much as the rest of the world")

The simple answer, Op isn't wrong.
Thought asking for the world, like Megaservers is less likely to occur.
(Other things can be worked on slowly. We must not forget thar SE will forge its own path, it's own version of systems in other games.)

BUT IT DOES NEED solutions like Region wide DF/PF/PVP/PVE. Not to the extreme like some have asked

But something that leads them to the changes asked.

Besides, look at it this way, one way forward is to entice other regions to follow suit.

NA/EU has many languages it shares in common(not only, or limited to English, or Spanish/French etc.)

If we had some form of region inclusive activity. it will eventually lead to a larger of JP or other East Region servers to take a bite, out of curiosity. (Unless their nation, says NO)

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Personally, I just want SE to give us Region Wide DF/PF/PVP at minimum. That way at least players new and potentially old will have reasons to stay in Dynamis as they have access to buffs and amenities without losing access to content or ViceVersa.

<and with new Major Patches/Expacs. Be forcefully Locked to Said Regions by Congestion. But of course, as long as SE wants to do so.>

It's Easy to Say that things won't change, and be combative or Joking about it.
But one also needs to be reasonable on asking for changes.

(Lead them to it, but don't Shove.)
They've stacked already enough Dissatisfaction(while still withing expected margins), that if they don't show they've done work on the game During 7.0
to have players actually demand en masses for change.

The Region wide DF,PF,PvP feature is a good place to start. It'll help solve a lot of queuing issues as well

[CidHeiral]

I think servers in general need to be condensed into mega servers like in ESO.

No thanks.

I think its really odd to have these isolated communities in an MMO

Yeah it's so much better to have one giant faceless blob of glorified NPCs where you never see the same person twice and nobody interacts with anyone ever. That was such a blast to see happen in WoW I'm sure it would be wonderful here.

And before someone says "but FFXIV is already like that!"

No, it isn't, at all. If you think it is that's a you problem. Learn some social skills.

[Thurmnmurmn]

No thanks.



Yeah it's so much better to have one giant faceless blob of glorified NPCs where you never see the same person twice and nobody interacts with anyone ever. That was such a blast to see happen in WoW I'm sure it would be wonderful here.

And before someone says "but FFXIV is already like that!"

No, it isn't, at all. If you think it is that's a you problem. Learn some social skills.

How's about this for a change to it. A mega server but using instances similar to what we use now on new patches.
And then you could add themes for each instance so you can play with similar minded people to keep the sub communities intact. Kinda like how osrs worlds are.

[Stormpeaks]

How's about this for a change to it. A mega server but using instances similar to what we use now on new patches.
And then you could add themes for each instance so you can play with similar minded people to keep the sub communities intact. Kinda like how osrs worlds are.

No.

This isnt OSRS or WoW, this game is fine and we dont need more spreading of the community nor mega servers.

Stop trying to ruin this game.

[Thurmnmurmn]

No.

This isnt OSRS or WoW, this game is fine and we dont need more spreading of the community nor mega servers.

Stop trying to ruin this game.

Making a simple suggestion is ruining the game. Alrighty then.

My view of it is that FFXIV is very strong in having multiple communities that all like different things about the game. Making it into a mega server would help all the communities grow since they could now play with similar communities from different regions.

We're in a general forum. If you disagree with my take you can do so but there's 0 harm in making a suggestion and seeing if anyone else is interested in the same or not.

[CidHeiral]

How's about this for a change to it. A mega server but using instances similar to what we use now on new patches.
And then you could add themes for each instance so you can play with similar minded people to keep the sub communities intact. Kinda like how osrs worlds are.

Or how about instead of trying to solve for a created problem, just don't create the problem in the first place?

[Thurmnmurmn]

Or how about instead of trying to solve for a created problem, just don't create the problem in the first place?

I don't want to derail the thread into this topic so I'll just add this to finish my part.
I always viewed this as a fix for the current problem of everyone going to aether for content.

Again, you're free to agree/disagree. That's what forums are for.

[Jeeqbit]

"a minority" lmao

You only quoted part of what I said. It's the minority that pressures the others to also do it. It only takes a minority (even 40%) to do it to notice a slowing of activity and then you feel pressured to go to the other data center yourself even though you don't want to and eventually, almost everyone is doing it, many reluctantly.

it's a single test server for stress testing. it doesn't really test cross region wise if anything you can easily go to a JP DC and play there.

Yes it does, because different regions are playing together and working together across all content.

Just because people are gathered together testing doesn't mean they want cross region

I never said they want cross-region. I said the concerns about it being this impossible thing that our cultures could mix doesn't seem to be the case here and that is potentially a sign that Yoshi-P should ignore those concerns.