How would you solve the boring "damage rotation" of the healers?

[Thurmnmurmn]

You guys have far more patience than I.

He won't admit to being wrong. Ever.

[ForsakenRoe]

If this were true then why didn't this happen over the course of ARR/HW? The answer is that DPSing as a healer wasn't boring, quite the opposite in fact.

As for No healer clears, that's an entirely different problem and as such, needs a differently solution if it's to be tackled at all. My personal opinion is that if healers weren't already up in arms, I honestly suspect it wouldn't be nearly as big a deal.

When I first started this game, I picked CNJ>WHM to start because my friend group were all playing DPS and I figured we'd need a healer (and at the time, tanking seemed scary to me). That was 2.55. One of the things I learned about the game that made me think 'that's cool' was that in downtime when there's nothing to heal, FFXIV healers can throw out damage spells, and they actually deal a fairly hefty amount of damage for a non-DPS role. This was by contrast to my other MMO experience at the time, having freshly fallen off of Snore-lords of Draenor (now THAT's an expansion with a lack of content), which had implemented some changes to damage profiles such that 'deal damage in downtime' was more 'possible', but as with MMO playerbases when changes occur, the players had not adapted to it yet. So there, my experience of healing was 'heal, and if no healing is needed, stand around and wait for some'.

When I started this game again on a new account in 3.2, I decided to grow a metaphorical pair, started as GLD to kill the 'tanxiety', then picked up NIN and SCH because I had heard 'they're hard to master'. And again, one of the things that made me enjoy SCH was the idea that in downtime, I'd use damage to help kill enemies faster. That the fairy wasn't just 'a conduit for some of the healing skills to come from', but a powerful ally whose healing abilities opened up time windows to deal damage safely. I enjoyed healer so much in those days, that by the time I had reached HW, I was 58 on SCH (lots of levelling/MSQ roulettes), and as soon as I reached HW I swapped to AST and mained it for the HW story. By the time I had caught up to the current end of the story (3.3 released by then), I had both SCH and AST at 60. When I decided to make an alt to help a friend's static (and not grief them on loot), I just bought a skip. I'm normally someone who'd rather level a class manually than spend money on a skip, because I detest the idea of paying for a game, and then paying a second time 'to not play it'. But I don't think I'd be able to push myself to get through the story a second time, not with healer gameplay being how it currently is

But enough about me, and more about no-healer runs. I don't remember so much complaining about how 'healers aren't needed' when that one gamer solo healed TEA as a Noct AST (and mouseclicked every button, including Malefic), it was mainly 'amazing that you could handle the HPS checks with only one healer, and in shield mode too, grats! (also please keybind your abilities)' iirc. Part of the reason the TOP run was so egregious was because healers were already feeling 'forgotten by the devs', we'd just come off of the tier which mangled the role population (Abyssos), but also, there is a mechanic in TOP that literally mandates two healers participate in the fight: Magic Number. And despite that 'hard requirement', the fight was cleared because it turns out the 'hard requirement' enforced by that mechanic was not quite as 'hard' as it should have been. As people have said elsewhere, if the shoe were on the other foot, and the fight were cleared with any number of tanks and healers, and zero DPS (because someone found a way to ignore the enrage's DPS requirement), there'd have been an absolute meltdown on reddit and such

[IDontPetLalas]

You guys have far more patience than I.

He won't admit to being wrong. Ever.

I'm just curious if anyone has actually come close to punching their monitor yet. I wouldn't blame them at all.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Are you aware that the current difference between a grey WHM and an optimal WHM is about 65%? And you're saying 10% is too much? I don't understand what you want, you're impossible to communicate with. I make a point and you argue a different point and then try to gaslight me into thinking I'm wrong. I give up trying to get you to understand, either you do or you don't.

Dunno what point y’all arguing exactly outside snippets that I could read from quotes.

Just wanna add that I find it funny how sterilizing the kits would never help the grays. Their issue largely aren’t caused by the kits but rather how the pressure they’re receiving while playing overwhelms them to the point of hampering their decision making & consistency. That’s not something that kits sterilizing can achieve. It’s mostly practice practice practice practice & practice to the best of their capability.

.. I mean I guess they can, if they delete everything & replace with a trait that automatically heal and damage targets when in combat lmao. Pls don’t read this CBU3

[ForsakenRoe]

I'm just curious if anyone has actually come close to punching their monitor yet. I wouldn't blame them at all.

I would say 'I'm not wasting a perfectly good monitor, especially because of someone who insists on arguing against basic maths'

.. I mean I guess they can, if they delete everything & replace with a trait that automatically heal and damage targets when in combat lmao. Pls don’t read this CBU3

[Boblawblah]

Woah, I just visited the healer sub forum, you guys all just have the same conversation over and over again don't you? Huh.

Carry on!

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

You guys have far more patience than I[…]

I have completely lost the faith since that slidecast meme.

Woah, I just visited the healer sub forum, you guys all just have the same conversation over and over again don't you? Huh.

Carry on!

Wow you actually visit that subforum?

You’re already much better than our current mod/SE!

[Mimilu]

I'm just curious if anyone has actually come close to punching their monitor yet. I wouldn't blame them at all.

I hope not!
Why would anyone want to punch their monitor lizard? =。:.ﾟ٩(⑅๑꒪﹏꒪๑)۶:.｡+ﾟ

[IDontPetLalas]

I hope not!
Why would anyone want to punch their monitor lizard? =。:.ﾟ٩(⑅๑꒪﹏꒪๑)۶:.｡+ﾟ

I like how you think

[ForsakenRoe]

Woah, I just visited the healer sub forum, you guys all just have the same conversation over and over again don't you? Huh.

Carry on!

Yeh, cos no matter how many times we explain it, it just doesn't seem to sink in. So we go around and around in circles, exhuming the dead horse for another round of beatings. You watch, within a couple of weeks, someone's going to respond to all the asking for more damage options on healer, by bringing up the concept of 'what if healers had 123 combos' again as if we haven't gone over that one too many times to count