hear me out raiders...

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

No, do the raids. They are easy enough when overlevelling them as is. Not everything needs to be turned into a tomestone grind, outdated content or not.

Farm as much as you need and trash the remaining drops.

Your idea to let such raids also simply produce an obscene amount of tomestones which affects other parts of the game as well which isnt innocently picking up gear isn't exactly great.

[UkcsAlias]

No, do the raids. They are easy enough when overlevelling them as is. Not everything needs to be turned into a tomestone grind, outdated content or not.

The problem isnt how easy it is, it is how fun it is. Old content in unsync is that trivial its not even fun. And in sync most people wont even bother.

And yes, the normal content might still be easy to trigger, but the savage content wont (which is required for a dyable piece). So it just comes down to asking a few other players to grind for some pieces. It doesnt feel rewarding at all to do that.

Changing something here could definitely improve the system. The poetics idea is garbage though as i still think the raids should at least be played. But maybe for this the normal content now just gives an eden token (alternatively there is a seperate token per raid), and to buy the piece it just requires a certain number (or a set) of tokens (like a set of 1,2,3,4 allows you to buy any piece of the first set of raids). For savage the numbers could even be increased here (where the dyable piece also demands more tokens).

But this only realy works for content that is trivial to beat, while the lvl 80 raids arent difficult anymore with a group of 8, they are still generaly nice to play with a more normal difficulty like experience. And thats still something i would hope gets promoted.

The problem here is that those raids dont have rewards similar to the trials (where each one can give a mount). And gear pieces to many players arent a collectible. So maybe some collectibles have to be added that can also be bought with the newer resource.

[kingskye]

The problem isnt how easy it is, it is how fun it is. Old content in unsync is that trivial its not even fun. And in sync most people wont even bother.

And yes, the normal content might still be easy to trigger, but the savage content wont (which is required for a dyable piece). So it just comes down to asking a few other players to grind for some pieces. It doesnt feel rewarding at all to do that.

Changing something here could definitely improve the system. The poetics idea is garbage though as i still think the raids should at least be played. But maybe for this the normal content now just gives an eden token (alternatively there is a seperate token per raid), and to buy the piece it just requires a certain number (or a set) of tokens (like a set of 1,2,3,4 allows you to buy any piece of the first set of raids). For savage the numbers could even be increased here (where the dyable piece also demands more tokens).

But this only realy works for content that is trivial to beat, while the lvl 80 raids arent difficult anymore with a group of 8, they are still generaly nice to play with a more normal difficulty like experience. And thats still something i would hope gets promoted.

The problem here is that those raids dont have rewards similar to the trials (where each one can give a mount). And gear pieces to many players arent a collectible. So maybe some collectibles have to be added that can also be bought with the newer resource.

if you wanted to run the fight...you would JUST for the fight...many party finders over the years show that there is a little intrest if you want to go into savage for JUST the gear...unless they want to get bis for ultimates and lets be honest...u dont need bis for ucob or uwu anymore, lol i would say tea in dawntrail...thats why i say sell them at a increase amount while removing alot of the clutter from BOTH normal and savage....like when the last time YOU went into idyllshire just to look at alexandrian gear!?

[kingskye]

this is not a matter of grinding them overleveled...its a matter of getting rid of OLD and outdated tokens from the game which serves no purpose other than clutter....for savage...besides getting bis for the current ultimate...its useless...if you wanted to do the fight just for the fight, u would do it