Quote Originally Posted by fulminating View Post
I want to cut off their access to getting the long term grind rewards if they’re not going to grind, yes.

I don’t think the lack of a long term goal in endwalker is going to reflect particularly well come even 7.0. If the sheer number of jobs is too daunting, why not take a leaf from literally last expansion and have one time steps or the first relic requiring 8 tokens but subsequent only taking one? Why not have the items drop into inventory at a low% rate in v&c or from island sanctuary venture things to encourage engagement? Or mhach/ivalice/nier alliance raids if they want to encourage people to queue those. Or just alliance/guildhest/etc roulette when queued with the relevant weapon? The relic weapon as a concept is such an easy opportunity to force engagement with content areas that it’s incredible they’re not leveraging it. It’s not as if the complaints about anaemic content only turned up in 6.4, they’ve been there since almost the start of the expansion, albeit quieter.

I think it may be the case that the relic has a high level of engagement, but so does ew summoner. If it’s free there’s no reason not to pick it up, and it’s not even digging into the weekly tome allowance.

Next expansion, each relic will be ~6000 poetics. Come on now.
They would be grinding. Just not in the same way. They'd grind their tomestones in whatever content they wanted to gain those in.

My personal preference is something more like ARR and HW questlines. I was hoping for that for EW. I even was kind of disappointed with the one time aspect of ShB steps because I'm one of the crazies that enjoys that checklist aspect. I would have done that one time step on all of my relics.

I just don't feel that now that another option has been presented, everyone needs to be forced into that. I've always advocated for choices in relic content, which is why I bristled against the Eureka and Bozja design, not to mention the FOMO aspects of those whereas ARR and HW remain much more accessible expansions later. So I really don't care if someone else gets their relic and their grind is tomestones.

Could even be something like being presented the quest and being told you can go find the items yourself through this specific content, or Rowena's rep conveniently has a supply for large amounts of tomestones each. It's really not that dissimilar than being able to shortcut your next relic after the one time steps.